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Ok Got given this hypothetical on another forum and I think I have confused myself massively. Hopefully someone can answer this.
Player A and B are in a match play game. Both drive. Both come to rest in similair locations on the left. Both Player A and B think Player A is in the red lateral hazard. Player B is somewhere in the deep rough near the hazard.
Player A and his partner are trying to determine the point of entry into the hazard.
Player B and his partner are looking for his ball.
Player A drops, and hits up the fairway. Player B cannot locate his ball.
Player A asks what ball Player B was hitting and realises he may have picked his ball up in the rough a distance away from where Player B was looking. He put it in his pocket and then realises he has used Player's B ball as his ball he has dropped and hit up.
Know what? Does Player A lose the hole? Player B would substitue his ball and play from as near as possible, but because it was "under search" what goes on. My gut tells me Player A loses the hole, but I can't prove why and because of that I am at a loss here.
By reading Rule 18-3, as Player A was not searching for Player B's ball, then clause b. takes effect and Player A incurs a one stroke penalty.
Player B must replace the moved ball.
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Why would player a be penalised? Did player b put specific markings on his ball? Did player a know those markings ?
It could have been coincidence that he found a ball with same brand same no , as you say it wasn’t where they thought b’s ball was .
You don't get me. I'm part of the Union.
There is no penalty to the opponent if he moves b’s during a search . Did he play the wrong ball , b’s ball is lost and a’s ball is also lost and has been substituted possibly with b’s original ball. has a played out of turn ?
It's a hypothetical and not worth the debate, especially with ambiguous terms like 'Both come to rest in similair locations on the left.'. It also conveniently leaves out whether Player A knew what brand, number, etc. ball, was being used by Player B.
Basically, Player A has picked up a ball in an area where they believed Player B's drive was heading, and didn't think to ask whether it belongs to Player B.
Loss of hole for being stupid.
Last edited by Dotty; 23rd June 2018 at 06:11 AM.
You don't get me. I'm part of the Union.
I'm also amazed that someone playing matchplay would be totally oblivious to the brand and number of an opponent's ball.
You don't get me. I'm part of the Union.
Is there any issue taking stroke and distance if the spot is 30m closer to the hole than where the ball crossed the margin of the penalty area?
It has always been my understanding that Stroke and Distance (i.e. replay the original shot) is always an option, irrespective of fate of the original shot.
https://www.randa.org/en/rog/2019/ru...f-golf/rule-18
Yep, you can always take stroke and distance and replay the shot.
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What if it crossed the hazard 30m behind the original spot.
Let’s just pretend for a minute the ball was played a metre from a garden bed which was surrounded by rocks and rather than hitting over the garden bed the shot was bladed into the rocks and went 80m in the opposite direction.
In this example the green arrow is the intended line of travel.
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WITB
Ping G400 SFT 12* Accra ST55 Tour Z M5
Srixon Z355 17* FW Miyazaki Jinsoku S
RBZ Black 3 HY 19* Rocketfuel 65S
Srixon Zu65 3 20* Nippon NS Pro 980GH
Srixon Z765 S300 4-PW
Tourstage X Wedge 54/10, 58/12
Taylormade Spider Tour Red CS 35"
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