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20th November 2014 06:15 PM
#1
Member
Club member who plays rain, hail, shine
Home course rating easy rant
So for the past 2 months now my home course rates around 68 on a weekday and 69-70 on a weekend, mind you this is a par 72, 134 slope course. This is the most frustrating thing ever because you get these high handicappers shooting 43+ points in stableford that drive the DSR down by a mile. Funniest thing, my friend shoots a 67 and it goes in as a +1.X differential.
I'll have to shoot 73 (handicap is around 5) consistently to just get it as a 5 differential in my golf link, I feel like it's pretty slack that you get punished for a really good round because most of the field who are 20+ handicappers, are shooting 43+ points.
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20th November 2014 07:20 PM
#2
I won at my home track a couple of saturdays ago playing off 13 had 45 points. 6 others were 40+ and a guy that played off 3 on the day went out after having 37 points. I can see your point but I dont really have a huge problem with it.
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20th November 2014 09:16 PM
#3
Member
Touring Pro (Aust PGA)
It's a problem. Maybe they should have different DSR's for each grade?
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20th November 2014 09:57 PM
#4
Member
Club member who plays rain, hail, shine
Originally Posted by
Rodent
It's a problem. Maybe they should have different DSR's for each grade?
They definitely do, it's exponentially harder for A graders to shoot 43+ points. A guy I use to play with shot a 72 and it came in with a differential of 3.5, his handicap went up from 6.7 to 7.1.
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20th November 2014 11:23 PM
#5
Senior Member
Touring Pro (European Tour)
If high handicappers are routinely shooting 43pts etc enough to affect DSR and its slope is 134 at the time then there is an issue with the course ratings. No way a slope 134/72 could end up having a DSR of 68 or even sub 72 routinely unless there are some significant condition issues that lets the course play really easy.
Whats the course?
With regards to the other comments, there are grades in a comp so the A graders don't have to compete against C graders in net events.
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21st November 2014 06:01 AM
#6
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
Understand the issue but surely if C graders are doing this regularly they won't stay in C grade?
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21st November 2014 02:23 PM
#7
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
Buzz
Understand the issue but surely if C graders are doing this regularly they won't stay in C grade?
They have a roster and take it in turns.
Bernie just needs to make 44 points every twentieth game, then Merv will take care of the next comp. game, followed by Clive, Des, Norm, etc. for the next four months.
By the time his turn comes around again, Bernie's 44 points would have dropped off his GA calculation.
ps.
You don't get me. I'm part of the Union.
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21st November 2014 02:37 PM
#8
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FFS Dotty, now my head hurts after that
Hey, let's pop some Viagras and issue tickets with raging, mega-huge boners.
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21st November 2014 02:43 PM
#9
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
solarman
FFS Dotty, now my head hurts after that
Don't worry.
It's not your turn to play well, until the second week of January.
You don't get me. I'm part of the Union.
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21st November 2014 02:48 PM
#10
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Gumby I'd the DSR rates a couple of under oar every round, doesn't this that mean if you shoot 35-36 every round u handicap will go up.????
Also in these comps how many grades are there???
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21st November 2014 03:23 PM
#11
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
I'm a C grader and 38 is my best in 12 months. Then again I guess I'm only one shot from B grade
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21st November 2014 03:24 PM
#12
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Originally Posted by
Buzz
I'm a C grader and 38 is my best in 12 months. Then again I guess I'm only one shot from B grade
Did u miss out on the roster????
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21st November 2014 03:25 PM
#13
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
Yeah I'd say so ... Also missed out when they were handing out talent
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21st November 2014 03:27 PM
#14
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Originally Posted by
Buzz
Yeah I'd say so ... Also missed out when they were handing out talent
I've got similar LOFT issues...
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21st November 2014 04:48 PM
#15
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What P's me off is that the DSR has minimal correlation to the conditions.
+1 for Dotty's roster theory.
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21st November 2014 04:53 PM
#16
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You don't get me. I'm part of the Union.
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21st November 2014 05:13 PM
#17
Member
Club member who plays rain, hail, shine
Originally Posted by
mrbluu
Gumby I'd the DSR rates a couple of under oar every round, doesn't this that mean if you shoot 35-36 every round u handicap will go up.????
Also in these comps how many grades are there???
Yeah if your flagged round goes out. My next flagged round is at a 2 differential meaning that I would need to shoot a 70 ( 2 under par) just to keep my handicap from going up
We have Div 1 and Div 2, i think Div 1 is A and B combined and Div 2 is the rest.
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21st November 2014 05:14 PM
#18
Member
Club member who plays rain, hail, shine
Originally Posted by
Scifisicko
What P's me off is that the DSR has minimal correlation to the conditions.
Agreed, played in gale force winds and it still ended up being a DSR of 70, I don't get it.
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21st November 2014 05:16 PM
#19
Member
Club member who plays rain, hail, shine
Originally Posted by
Hux
there is an issue with the course ratings.
I agree, when they came out with the slope rating of our course it was 130 for whites and 134 for blues and every member was quite surprised. Honestly it should be around 11X, it kinda stops the higher handicapper getting around 3-4 more shots from their GA handicap.
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21st November 2014 05:21 PM
#20
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Japanese Tour)
Originally Posted by
Dotty
You keep your good form for matchplay events, which doesn't get handicapped.
ps.
x a million.
Haha you know there's probably more than a few that think I'm a burglar but there's probably more that wonder why I'm not worse than 20
Matchplay is great you only have to play slightly better than your opponent!
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21st November 2014 07:10 PM
#21
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
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22nd November 2014 08:08 AM
#22
Senior Member
Touring Pro (European Tour)
I blame the asylum seekers they wreck everything!
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22nd November 2014 02:53 PM
#23
Same problem at my local track. I was playing well for a while and got down to +1, over winter I have gone out to 1 and now that I am starting to get some better scores the course rating is always -3ish.
Had 1 under on Wednesday, played to 1.8, had a .9 drop off the end and went out.
The only time our course rating is ever par or thereabouts its because we had a 100kph wind.
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22nd November 2014 03:46 PM
#24
Victorious Confederate Captain
Order of Merit winner
Originally Posted by
Buzz
I'm a C grader and 38 is my best in 12 months. Then again I guess I'm only one shot from B grade
Dear Buzz
How did you go today?
Your turn on the roster?
Same question for Solarman...
Last edited by WBennett; 22nd November 2014 at 03:48 PM.
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22nd November 2014 03:48 PM
#25
Member
Touring Pro (Von Nida Tour)
I play 2 local tracks quite often.
One a slope of 120 I regularly shoot my best rounds.
The other (my home track) slope 124 and I play easily my worst golf there. Often 5 - 10 shots more than track 1
Had the issue above at track #1 recently. Shot 38pts for the round. But DSR came in at 68 and my cap went out. Bit annoyed...
Understandable though. it did play fairly easily that day.
As for the course in the OP. Sounds like the rating must be a bit out if its every week.
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