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11th May 2011 09:21 AM
#1
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Upcoming Downtime - Server Change
Sometime in the next few days, I expect the forum to go down while it changes servers. I have no idea on the amount of downtime at this stage, but it could be up to 36 hours.
I will try to get an approximation of time, when I have a better idea. When it does go down, I'll provide any useful updates via Facebook.
If you are in the middle of something or waiting for a thread update or PM when it does go down, sucked in.
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11th May 2011 09:42 AM
#2
Server change?? Didn't you do that recently??
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11th May 2011 09:44 AM
#3
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The hosts did one themselves, because their server stuffed up. This change is initiated by us.
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11th May 2011 09:53 AM
#4
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Why will it be down though? There is a simple way to ensure it doesn't go down, you know.
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11th May 2011 09:55 AM
#5
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11th May 2011 09:58 AM
#6
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Major Winner
AndyP, I can assume you're referring to DNS propagation issues, but here's what I do.
Create a mirror of the site on the new server.
Prepare for the DNS change on that server.
Create a redirect script to go from ozgolf.net to new.ozgolf.net (but call it index.txt or something)
Freeze the old site, and upload the most up-to-date database to the new server. (This should be the only downtime, and it's just to ensure no stray posts are left on the old site)
Change the redirect script to index.html and now everyone will be automatically posting on new.ozgolf.net
Make the DNS changes at the domain registrar so that ozgolf.net now points to the new server.
That's pretty much it. While DNS is propagating and people are still directed to the old server, they will automatically redirected to new.ozgolf.net. Once DNS is propagated, ozgolf.net will go to the new server automatically (providing the initial setup is done right).
All you need to do is maybe clean up the new.ozgolf.net references in a week or two, just to maintain a tidy house.
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11th May 2011 10:03 AM
#7
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
henno
AndyP, I can assume you're referring to DNS propagation issues, but here's what I do.
Create a mirror of the site on the new server.
Prepare for the DNS change on that server.
Create a redirect script to go from ozgolf.net to new.ozgolf.net (but call it index.txt or something)
Freeze the old site, and upload the most up-to-date database to the new server. (This should be the only downtime, and it's just to ensure no stray posts are left on the old site)
Change the redirect script to index.html and now everyone will be automatically posting on new.ozgolf.net
Make the DNS changes at the domain registrar so that ozgolf.net now points to the new server.
That's pretty much it. While DNS is propagating and people are still directed to the old server, they will automatically redirected to new.ozgolf.net. Once DNS is propagated, ozgolf.net will go to the new server automatically (providing the initial setup is done right).
All you need to do is maybe clean up the new.ozgolf.net references in a week or two, just to maintain a tidy house.
Why the hell can't you get a job ??
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11th May 2011 10:12 AM
#8
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Originally Posted by
jarro
Why the hell can't you get a job ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQ2k...eature=related
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11th May 2011 10:15 AM
#9
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Originally Posted by
AndyP
If you are in the middle of something or waiting for a thread update or PM when it does go down, sucked in.
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11th May 2011 10:57 AM
#10
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Originally Posted by
henno
AndyP, I can assume you're referring to DNS propagation issues, but here's what I do.
Create a mirror of the site on the new server.
Prepare for the DNS change on that server.
Create a redirect script to go from ozgolf.net to new.ozgolf.net (but call it index.txt or something)
Freeze the old site, and upload the most up-to-date database to the new server. (This should be the only downtime, and it's just to ensure no stray posts are left on the old site)
Change the redirect script to index.html and now everyone will be automatically posting on new.ozgolf.net
Make the DNS changes at the domain registrar so that ozgolf.net now points to the new server.
That's pretty much it. While DNS is propagating and people are still directed to the old server, they will automatically redirected to new.ozgolf.net. Once DNS is propagated, ozgolf.net will go to the new server automatically (providing the initial setup is done right).
All you need to do is maybe clean up the new.ozgolf.net references in a week or two, just to maintain a tidy house.
+1
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11th May 2011 12:48 PM
#11
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
.+2
except i would not go to those lengths. just freeze the old site.
do a database backup.
place a notice on old forum
copy to new server.
change Dns.
that 36 hour window is ancient but still spread by server admins to cover their incompetence if something goes wrong. for years now i have not seen Dns to take any more than a few hours to propogate to the core nameservers and often a few seconds.
AP are you migrating from a Cpanel host to Cpanel ?
if yes they can do a seemless transfer that probably takes 5 mins tops and you do nothing.
if not that is a pretty good reason to use cpanel hosting.
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11th May 2011 12:52 PM
#12
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My way is far more elegant, and seemless to the user if done right. (unless they look up and see the new subdomain in that short amount of time while the DNS is propagating).
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11th May 2011 12:52 PM
#13
Site Owner
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Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
AP are you migrating from a Cpanel host to Cpanel ?
if yes they can do a seemless transfer that probably takes 5 mins tops and you do nothing.
Yes. At this stage I'm doing nothing, as the transfer request is in with the hosts.
Robyn would have to change the DNS though.
I stated 36 hours in case of my incompetence and something goes wrong.
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11th May 2011 12:53 PM
#14
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And while I agree on the average time for DNS propagation, the reason that is spread by server admins is not for the reason you stated. It's because they have no control over each individual ISPs DNS setup and how often they update their records, not matter what TTL they use at the nameserver.
Last edited by henno; 11th May 2011 at 01:14 PM.
Reason: typo
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11th May 2011 01:04 PM
#15
Senior Member
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Originally Posted by
AndyP
Yes. At this stage I'm doing nothing, as the transfer request is in with the hosts.
Awesome, except that now when it all happens seamlessly inside of 30 mins, everyone now knows you are not awesome.
I stated 36 hours in case of my incompetence and something goes wrong.
i wasnt referring to you !
Originally Posted by
henno
My way is far more elegant, and seemless to the user if done right.
I agree, but I dont think is worth the effort. Its Ozgolf not Ebay
the reason that is spread by server admins is not for the reason you stated.
I know what you are saying about the ISPs, but I have worked with too many self preservation conscious system administrators to change my mind. They lie through their teeth about what the do when covering their tracks.
The no. of times they say "must have been a transient issue, as its no longer occuring" or worse "cannot repeat the issue" when it is a fact that they actually made a change to resolve it is beyond belief.
I laughed my head off when 3/4 of them were made redundant. (austar circa 2001)
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11th May 2011 01:21 PM
#16
Site Owner
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Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
Awesome, except that now when it all happens seamlessly inside of 30 mins, everyone now knows you are not awesome.
I know that I'm awesome regardless.
i wasnt referring to you !
I was. I'm shit scared I've done something wrong.
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11th May 2011 01:34 PM
#17
Senior Member
Major Winner
You have my number, AP. Call me if the shit hits the fan.
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11th May 2011 01:37 PM
#18
Senior Member
Touring Pro (PGA)
Originally Posted by
henno
You have my number, AP. Call me if the shit hits the fan.
So you can ridicule and laugh at him? Sounds good.
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11th May 2011 01:45 PM
#19
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Originally Posted by
henno
You have my number, AP. Call me if the shit hits the fan.
Thanks henno.
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11th May 2011 03:01 PM
#20
Senior Member
Touring Pro (PGA)
Originally Posted by
henno
You have my number, AP. Call me if the shit hits the fan.
Would you like a job as Ozgolf Admin. Pay is what you're currently on and no other perks.
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11th May 2011 03:05 PM
#21
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Touring Pro (European Tour)
Originally Posted by
Iain
Would you like a job as ASSISTANT Ozgolf Admin. Pay is what you're currently on and no other perks.
Fixed it for you
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11th May 2011 03:31 PM
#22
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Thank Christ there is porn out there or there would be no reason to use the internet.
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11th May 2011 06:06 PM
#23
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
henno
AndyP, I can assume you're referring to DNS propagation issues, but here's what I do.
Create a mirror of the site on the new server.
Prepare for the DNS change on that server.
Create a redirect script to go from ozgolf.net to new.ozgolf.net (but call it index.txt or something)
Freeze the old site, and upload the most up-to-date database to the new server. (This should be the only downtime, and it's just to ensure no stray posts are left on the old site)
Change the redirect script to index.html and now everyone will be automatically posting on new.ozgolf.net
Make the DNS changes at the domain registrar so that ozgolf.net now points to the new server.
That's pretty much it. While DNS is propagating and people are still directed to the old server, they will automatically redirected to new.ozgolf.net. Once DNS is propagated, ozgolf.net will go to the new server automatically (providing the initial setup is done right).
All you need to do is maybe clean up the new.ozgolf.net references in a week or two, just to maintain a tidy house.
This would've been my suggestion also.
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11th May 2011 07:08 PM
#24
Thinking along the same lines myself mike!
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11th May 2011 07:27 PM
#25
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I should let you do it, Goughy. And how's that announcement going?
This forum down yet?
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