Virge's Swing.

[Jarro]

That Brad Lamb swing is fantastic .....

[virge666]

what are you playing off these days virge?

Would you believe 5 . . . yeah, not happy about it.

Work and family just ruin your golf. I get to play once every 3 weeks and I get to go to the range for an hour every 2 weeks. Paying $2500 a year for membership mean I think I am paying around $150 per round of golf. You can scratch around with the odd good hole, but you just cant turn 3 into 2 enough to get or keep some momentum. Just too many soft bogeys . . .

I got asked to trial for pennants this year . . . have played 2 rounds and realise I am way out of my depth. We have 3 scratch golfers, (one who is 15 years old) and another 3 guys of less than 3, doesn't leave much room for me chopping it off 5.

Anyway - bit of practice and let's see if i can get back to 2 or 3 and flub my way into the team playing at 6 or 7.

And yeah - Brad has a sensational swing - but I think he has given it away and got to something that pays a living... goes to show how important chipping and putting is when you cant earn a living with that swing !

Andrew Stolz isn't doing too badly either leading Asian order of merit with a cool half million. Gary Barter at the Aussie teaches him !

[edhannan]

Thank you for the responses, Virge. Your Nov. 17 vid shows marked improvement in body positions and movement.

I'm very interested in the Edwin drill you mention...eagerly awaiting.

[Trento]

virge, im relatively new around here and dont have time to go through previous posts.
Did you used to go to Gary?
Are you now seeing Martin ayers?
if so, why?

[virge666]

Thank you for the responses, Virge. Your Nov. 17 vid shows marked improvement in body positions and movement.

I'm very interested in the Edwin drill you mention...eagerly awaiting.

The drill is below - up the wall drill.

It is rotating the upper half against the lower half. - The right wrist sort of works upwards in a tennis top spin forhand sort of fashion.

Hope that makes sense. - apoligies for the swearing in the clip

virge, im relatively new around here and dont have time to go through previous posts.
Did you used to go to Gary?
Are you now seeing Martin ayers?
if so, why?

Yes and Yes and Yes and yes and Donnie Fardon as well. I like the right sided swing, a lot.

I am bit different to most guys with golf - you will see a lot of people look at swing and rubbish various parts of them as they do not co-incide with their ideals about how a swing should look and feel. I don't do this and have a go at people who do.

I look for the similarities in methods. As I have gotton older - I have found that pretty much that everyone teaches the same swing but they might have something they focus on that is their "thing".

Martin has the setup and wrist action - which I have tried to add to my Edwin swing with good results. Marty also has helped in getting me more balanced at setup and has some great "feelings" for the backswing and his downswing move is absolutley brilliant.

The only thing I really look at is impact - I can see at impact what is wrong with the other parts of the swing and can usually change other bits to make impact better.

Have a look at Courty's swing vid for my kind of evaluation.

[dan]

You don't turn your upper half enough. It looks like you're relying on your arms to do the hit.

[virge666]

You don't turn your upper half enough. It looks like you're relying on your arms to do the hit.

I am guessing you mean for the full swing . . .

What makes you say that ?

[dan]

I am guessing you mean for the full swing . . .

What makes you say that ?

Was that not a full swing? Your shoulders hardly turn much.

[Jarro]

Virge, any chance you could put up a driver swing ?

I'd like to see how the swing looks when you're really going after it.

[virge666]

Was that not a full swing? Your shoulders hardly turn much.

really . . . I am pretty happy with that... but I wish I could not see the right elbow.

Check out the attached photo.

Virge, any chance you could put up a driver swing ?

I'd like to see how the swing looks when you're really going after it.

yeah mate - no problem. I will try and get one in daylight too.

[edhannan]

Virge, thank you for the drill. Much appreciated.

Re other comments here:
- looks to me like you have plenty of shoulder turn
- at the very top of your backswing, maybe more right arm than you want to see, but just after the downswing begins the right arm looks pretty much as in the GE models

[Trento]

Virge, im struggling staying forward enough through impact, i tend to lose my spine angle, and as Don calls it , i tilt and back up at impact.
Its an old habit thats hard to break, any drills, or thoughts?

[virge666]

Virge, im struggling staying forward enough through impact, i tend to lose my spine angle, and as Don calls it , i tilt and back up at impact.
Its an old habit thats hard to break, any drills, or thoughts?

Hey mate,

You are in that horrible void of doing what you think the RSS and ignoring all the cool bits of your old swing. This phase really sucks and a lot of people dont get past this bit. Those swings that I saw of yours are very weak because you dont use your pivot at al, and it looks like you are trying to restrict it even more.

This was a major stumbling block for me - I couldn't get the 7 iron out past 135 as all that was working were the hands... gave me the shits no end.

This is what you are missing. Yep - you clear your hips... but here is the kicker, you dont pull your arms through with the hips as per other styles of swing, you brace them upwards and back. Now...GE and Donnie will say not to do this - or more than likely not to actively think about doing this - and they are right - you dontactively pull that hip back and up - it sort of happens. BUT THE TRICK IS NOT TO RESTRICT THE HIPS, let them do whatever they like.

This is how I finally got it.

Grab you pitching wedge and pick a target 60-70 out. I use a flag at Narabeen Driving range. I use my arms only, BUT NOT RESTRICTING THE HIPS and I try and bash shots 10 feet high at the flag without the ball drawing or fading.

Here is a video of it. This is how I got Power back with the Edwin Swing. I do this a lot and I mean a LOT !!

[Trento]

thanks for the feedback virge, yes its driving me mad, as the result is gererally a thin shot which drives me mad, i think your right, Don is also telling me to hit alot of half wedges too.BTW, that video Blakey uploaded onto here was the footage don took at the start of the first lesson, the recent videos have improved alot, i have eliminated alot of the movement off the ball and he has changed my set up quite a bit.I will keep perservering with it, as i really believe its the way to go for me !

[timah!]

Virge, you're an Edwin fan yeah? Can you break down this drill for me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8pHQYh6viM&sns=em

[virge666]

Virge, you're an Edwin fan yeah? Can you break down this drill for me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8pHQYh6viM&sns=em

Wow,

I haven't seen that one for a while... I actually like the music !

[timah!]

[Jarro]

Virge, you're an Edwin fan yeah? Can you break down this drill for me?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8pHQYh6viM&sns=em

The shimmy parody .... love it

[virge666]

Jarro,

Here you go - 7 iron by memory. Pulled the first one about 30m left but thumped the last one.

[Jarro]

Thanks Virge

Still keen to see a driver swing though

[virge666]

Thanks Virge

Still keen to see a driver swing though

Just load up Pampling mate - it is almost identical.

[Jarro]

Just load up Pampling mate - it is almost identical.

I'll bet it is too

[sol381]

looks like you have a lowish ball flight....good control that way.. i like the abbreviated follow through on the second shot

[virge666]

Thanks Virge

Still keen to see a driver swing though

Loaded mate - Here you go. I kept the pre-swing to show how I do it.

looks like you have a lowish ball flight....good control that way.. i like the abbreviated follow through on the second shot

Hmm . . . No.

I hit the ball high. It is much easier to control the length of the shot by doing that. I can of course hit it lower . . . as you can see in that drill of mine. But everything to do with technology in golf resounds around hitting the ball high.

Just look at the top 10 golfers in the world - they all hit the ball stupidly high.

That being said - that 2nd swing is the best swing I have put on video . . . ever.

[Jarro]

Thanks Virge ...

.. just like Pamplings as you said