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    Perhaps if you started whistling that tune again, you might get your old swing back ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Perhaps if you started whistling that tune again, you might get your old swing back ...

    Which tune ?

    My new wedges arrive today so I will off to the range today to have a play and a hit. 3 Mizuno wedges (52,56 and 60) for sale tomorow.

    Major Pennants trials start this week and I have been hitting the ball well and for the first time in my life, I am very happy with my putting stroke. It makes a big difference when you are not hitting it well to hole a few par putts.

    So I will get some video tonight and load up the comparisons.

    BTW: 3Balls - 3 Ping tour wedges delivered in 3 days, awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by virge666 View Post
    Which tune ?
    Whatever tune you are whistling in the swing clip video from 2 years ago. Seems to have worked back then.

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    Everything is there or so it seems to me. It is very quick though which can upset the flow of the swing and impair your feeling of what occurred. It can also mean poor flexibility in key areas i.e. hamstrings, hips, upper back and rotator cuffs. Your set up (front view) indicates that your hips are out of alignment, right leg may be longer than your left...worth getting it checked out. Two excelent books on stretching are both by the same author Kit Laughlin "Overcome Neck & Back Pain now includes Shoulder, Arm & Hand Pain" & "Stretching & Flexibility". The first (Overcome..) has all you want for golf.
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    Gents,

    For the first time in a long time I actually have a swing back again, and by that I mean a swing that i can take to the course and not one that I make up when I am there.

    Such a weird feeling.

    I will put some video up as soon as I get some next week. I will show the progression from Nov 2007 to today. The handicap has got out to 4, but, I am hopeing if family or work don't butcher me over the next couple of months, I can push it back down to the 2 or even 1 level.

    Pennants @ Monash tomorrow at 6am. Have to go and putt on the floorboards to practice.

    Life is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virge666 View Post
    Gents,

    For the first time in a long time I actually have a swing back again, and by that I mean a swing that i can take to the course and not one that I make up when I am there.
    I'll be the judge of that young man i await your footage

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    Quote Originally Posted by virge666 View Post
    Gents,

    For the first time in a long time I actually have a swing back again, and by that I mean a swing that i can take to the course and not one that I make up when I am there.

    Such a weird feeling.

    I will put some video up as soon as I get some next week. I will show the progression from Nov 2007 to today. The handicap has got out to 4, but, I am hopeing if family or work don't butcher me over the next couple of months, I can push it back down to the 2 or even 1 level.

    Pennants @ Monash tomorrow at 6am. Have to go and putt on the floorboards to practice.

    Life is good.
    Congrat and good luck with the match. The clubs that you built for me are awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by virge666 View Post
    Pennants @ Monash tomorrow at 6am.
    Do they allow you to wear those sexy denim shorts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottt View Post
    Do they allow you to wear those sexy denim shorts?
    Exsqeeze me... denim shorts are not allowed under ANY occasion unless you are a twenty-something hotty with large boobs and then they are wrapping paper.

    Lost 3 & 2 at Monash and flushed it all morning. Stupid, Stupid greens.

    Oh - and he played pretty good too. (bastard)

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    I'd be more interested in seeing your putting stroke rather than your golf swing. I think it still counts the same on the score card as a full swing.
    Consciousness and awareness - awareness is being aware of what is happening and being aware of what is happening within ourselves while we are conscious. Where did I leave my glasses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by razaar View Post
    I'd be more interested in seeing your putting stroke rather than your golf swing. I think it still counts the same on the score card as a full swing.
    Ha!

    I have done my pennance in putting. I spent most of 2007 ignoring my fullswing to get some putting consistancy.

    I easily average less than 30 putts on my home course with 31 putts yesterday @ Monash on very fast greens. Hitting the right side of the green also helps a lot.

    I copied Pamplings stroke. Feet close together, slightly open, with an putter that does not stay square to the target line.

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    31 putts (some being conceded) for 16 holes isn't real flash. Lets have a peek at your putting stroke. I take it from your comments that the result of the match came down to putting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razaar View Post
    31 putts (some being conceded) for 16 holes isn't real flash. Lets have a peek at your putting stroke. I take it from your comments that the result of the match came down to putting.
    You haven't played Monash mate. Lookup the "Monash Masters" and have a read about their greens. Greenkeepers with serious self-esteem issues.

    The main problem is that it was a decent course back in the day but the greens are 70 years old. The lumps and slopes are great for the slow greens on the time - but with the newer green keeping methods. 7 greens are just unputtable if you are on the wrong side. I won the 2nd hole because the guy I played had 8' above the hole that went off the green.

    If you ever get the chance - play the Monash Masters 36 holes event. It is brutal.

    And with most "foreign" courses - it ain't the actual mechanics - it is the green reading. When you have a green stimping at 12-13, local knowledge plays a big part.

    But . . . happy to put up my putting stroke and chipping stroke as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by virge666 View Post
    You haven't played Monash mate. Lookup the "Monash Masters" and have a read about their greens. Greenkeepers with serious self-esteem issues.

    The main problem is that it was a decent course back in the day but the greens are 70 years old. The lumps and slopes are great for the slow greens on the time - but with the newer green keeping methods. 7 greens are just unputtable if you are on the wrong side. I won the 2nd hole because the guy I played had 8' above the hole that went off the green.

    If you ever get the chance - play the Monash Masters 36 holes event. It is brutal.

    And with most "foreign" courses - it ain't the actual mechanics - it is the green reading. When you have a green stimping at 12-13, local knowledge plays a big part.

    But . . . happy to put up my putting stroke and chipping stroke as well.
    Happy to concur wholeheartedly.

    The year I played it I one putted the first, and 3 putted the next 5 . They were apparently running at 14 on the stimpmeter which I am told is faster than Augusta. You go past some flags, you simply cannot get it close coming back down !

    I played with a member who simply said that it's the only way they can protect the course from being torn apart every week.

    I believe Fatty Vautin used to play off 4 there !

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    Just had a quick look at Colin Tatz's book "A Course of History, Monash Country Club"; I see what you mean

    page 225

    "If not all holes are memorable, the greens certainly are. Colin Johnson's comment on the eve of the 1964 PGA is valid to this day; 'The scores will be reasonably high because the greens will be terribly fast. Three putts will be common and don't be surprised if you hear a tale or two about the fourth putt. The greens aren't tricked out in the sense of having steep tiers or roller coaster bumps and humps to make putting difficult. The contours, speed and degree of borrow on almost every putt make for heavy concentration - and frustration. The '300yard specialists' often fare badly at Monash. In the popular phrase, these 'gorillas' look 'awesome', but the real question is whether they can putt, or rather, can they think before they putt?"

    Is that a reasonable description of your recent experience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by razaar View Post
    Is that a reasonable description of your recent experience?
    That is pretty close.

    I shot even par the front nine and then had 2 over the back nine with a bogey on the 11th and 14th. Hit the 14th green (195m par 3 to a raised green over water) for one and both the caddie and myself TOTALLY misread it. We thought about 3m left to right. It was in fact around 1m right to left. Just an insane place.

    What kills you are the 8-10', you read about 2 or 3" of break, you are hitting the ball so softly, that if your pace is just a touch off you miss the hole and your left with 4-6' comming back or in one case for our #3 player . . . the sandwedge.

    The local lads seem to know what you can be agressive on and how to putt the greens. When you spend so much energy making sure you are below the hole to get the 10' up hill... and then grind on each and every putt, by the 15th you are just shattered.

    If you get the chance... have a go. it makes an Aussie Open qualifier play like a Monday night chook run.

    Enjoy

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    2 weeks ago is here - last weekd swings didn't come out because of light issues.

    These ones are still a bit uppy downy, didn't quite have the drop down and right hip sorted by then as I found something a couple of nights ago - but the turn is deeper.

    The bit I added was clearing the right side more agressively through impact. This had be going at the target a bit harder.

    http://happybandits.com/virge/Virge/SwingCuts250209.wmv

    I will get the latest swing up soon.

    Also I added this. it is from a Edwin Seminar and shows the difference between catchup and leverage. Gaz is a bit wanky with his desctipion of a catchup swing, showing it to be all wavey, but you should get the idea.

    Lastly is the fantastic description of BALANCE, and why I keep harping on posture.

    I may get into trouble for posting this - but seeing as it does not show any of the cool secrets that we have... it is more a generic advertisment for Edwin... I am hoping to get away with it.

    Enjoy.

    http://happybandits.com/virge/Virge/Leverage.wmv

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    Fixed... too many spaces.

    My link is the one to use.

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    Got anymore of that last video?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan View Post
    Got anymore of that last video?

    Yep.


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    Whats with the little nod after you hit it, an acknowledgement of perfection?

    and is that one of the free download from his website for members? i used to know someone elses password there, downloaded some stuff, but i forgot it now, but there is some good swing videos available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markTHEblake View Post
    Whats with the little nod after you hit it, an acknowledgement of perfection?

    and is that one of the free download from his website for members? i used to know someone elses password there, downloaded some stuff, but i forgot it now, but there is some good swing videos available.

    Didn't notice the nods... might just be the editing cut.

    That is one of the latest downloads from the members website. Hence my intrepidation on posting it.

    There is also a great video on direction of turn, but you will have to join for that one.


 

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