Virge's Swing.

[virge666]

And on to posture . . . can't keep dipping through impact for the rest of my life...

http://happybandits.com/virge/Virge/VirgeBack0408.wmv

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http://happybandits.com/virge/Virge/VirgeFront.wmv


but the trouble was - when I was on the course... back to the old habits. Check out me hanging back and driving the legs.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=W3JV_U4lXEo

Same problem as I have always had.

[virge666]

And now working on turn... 12 months later from the tantrum.

http://happybandits.com/virge/Virge/Virge271108.wmv

It is better - but still too much hip and leg action, still flipping through impact.

So this week it is all about those hips... if I can slow the slide down - I may be able to actually hit DOWN on the ball.

It is all just a work in progress.

[oobsadd2]

Good looking swing Virge, Do you feel much resistance when coiling up?

[Jarro]

As usual, very imformative Virge

[virge666]

Good looking swing Virge, Do you feel much resistance when coiling up?

I use to - but as you can see I lost a lot of my turn looking for resistance. I have relised that I don't really want a lot of resistance. let me explain... quickly

Two ways to play golf ... You can SWING or HIT. There are various arguements to both - but basically - you can push the club through impact or you can pull the club through impact. You cannot do both.

If you Swing the club, you coil up the center and then uncoil from the center back out. This is where you want more feeling of resistance on the backswing. more coil = more power. We call this "CatchUp", spin everything and let the clubhead catchup.

I use a more leveraged approach to Impact. More like chopping wood with an axe. Less speed and more weight behind the hit. It is about the balance and power I can put behind the clubhead - not the speed I can swing it at. That is the plan anyway.

So for mine it is about sequence or "Rhythm" - I miss my old sequence and this swing I have now is getting better and I might just use this like a blog over the next 6 weeks before Pennants.

My short game has stayed with me and that is what has kept my handicap down for the last few years. I would rather have more GIR though.

Enjoy

[mikezone13]

Trade you some GIR's for your short game mate

Interesting vids, just reconfirms what I was thinking about improving my posture and setup position.

The big question, what is the best way to 'learn' or ingrain a new posture/setup position, how did you do it?

[virge666]

The big question, what is the best way to 'learn' or ingrain a new posture/setup position, how did you do it?

Repetition and drills mate. Just like bashing your head into a wall. It is great when it is over. It is real hard work... and screws with you mentally.

I did some work tonight and it looks actually pretty good, it is starting to come back.

[mikezone13]

Repetition and drills mate. Just like bashing your head into a wall. It is great when it is over. It is real hard work... and screws with you mentally.

I did some work tonight and it looks actually pretty good, it is starting to come back.

Got any more info on the drills or somewhere to point me? I want to get away from my 'lazy/slouch' posture and there's only so much staring at myself in the mirror I can do

[virge666]

Got any more info on the drills or somewhere to point me? I want to get away from my 'lazy/slouch' posture and there's only so much staring at myself in the mirror I can do

Yeah I do - next time I am in the office I will bring stuff with me. It is a bit big for the forum and FTP.

[virge666]

OK - tonight's stuff. I feel like a king - it almost feels . . . ummm . . . "good"

The front on shot is an 8 iron, The radar said a 139m carry which sounds alright. But pretty much just flushed this club all night.

The second one is later in the evening with a 5 iron - the radar said 168m carry so it is also half decent. Had a bit more trouble with the 5 iron - but hit 60-70% alright.

You can see me working on turn and making sure I have enough room for the hands to drop in the slot. You can also see how much faster my hands are working than in the earlier vids.

Happy Camper tonight, what will tomorrow bring ?

http://happybandits.com/virge/Virge/Virge041208.wmv

[dan]

Do you think you turn properly? It looks a very armsy swing with the your hands close to your body on the backswing.

[virge666]

Do you think you turn properly? It looks a very armsy swing with the your hands close to your body on the backswing.

Interesting . . . what do you define a proper turn as ?

What are you looking for ?

The main thiing I don't like about my turn is the flying right elbow... which is caused by my shoulders going under instead of around.

[dan]

Interesting . . . what do you define a proper turn as ?

What are you looking for ?

Full rotation of the shoulders on the correct angle.

The main thiing I don't like about my turn is the flying right elbow... which is caused by my shoulders going under instead of around.

I'd agree with that.

[Toolish]

Full rotation of the shoulders on the correct angle.

I'd agree with that.

What is full rotation?

What is the correct angle?

[dan]

What is full rotation?

What is the correct angle?

Getting into that would be like a discussion to nowhere... I suspect. And I'm sure you're more savvy about this stuff than I am.

[Toolish]

Doubt I am more savvy than you mate.

Golf instructors tend to use the same terms to mean different things, or use wishy washy terms without defining them. Makes any sort of swing discussion difficult.

Just trying to understand what you mean.

[virge666]

Full rotation of the shoulders on the correct angle.

I'd agree with that.

Next week will be that right elbow - if I can get that better - I think the shoulder turn will look a lot better. Also would like to get that right hip deeper on the backswing.

I have tried a few times to fix that - but we always seem to comeback to it.

[dan]

Next week will be that right elbow - if I can get that better - I think the shoulder turn will look a lot better.

I would have thought it's the other way around. Fix the shoulder turn and elbow will take care of itself..?.

Equal to the shoulder turn prob, is the lack of spine angle at setup (& top of backswing) and the thrust to the left on the downswing.....no?

[3oneday]

No, his reverse pivot gets in the way.

[virge666]

I would have thought it's the other way around. Fix the shoulder turn and elbow will take care of itself..?.

Exactly what I meant !

Equal to the shoulder turn prob, is the lack of spine angle at setup (& top of backswing) and the thrust to the left on the downswing.....no?

if I get that back hip deeper - that should also fix that. I have been told not to lock that rear leg - struggling with that and having that right hip deeper.



Get back in your box 3.

[dan]

I have been told not to lock that rear leg - struggling with that and having that right hip deeper.

Yep. The right leg straightening is a symptom of a poor turn...no?

Your higher right side, decreases spine angle, hence the thrust to the left (led by the hips) to achieve some angle into impact. One thing affects the other...all in a very short amount of time.

[virge666]

Your higher right side, decreases spine angle, hence the thrust to the left (led by the hips) to achieve some angle into impact. One thing affects the other...all in a very short amount of time.

YES !!!! EXACTLY !!!!

And you have to fix the turn to get rid of the leg drive. All I want to be able to do is get a higher left hip through impact and all I seem to get is a lower right side and a leg drive. This means I hit "hold off" shots all day to get the ball to go straight.

Stupid Stupid game !

[dan]

Atleast you're on plane.

I can't even get that bit right!!!

[Jono]

Hey Virge,

I like your swing 2 years ago much better. More natural.

You seem to have a tendency to stand up on the backswing (especially in the 4 wood swing). That is why your spine angle is more upright at impact than it is at address. To compensate for that, you "dip" the right hip and hunch up in the shoulders.

[virge666]

I like your swing 2 years ago much better. More natural.

Me too. Back when I could hit the ball and couldn't putt. Now it is the opposite. I had 4 under on the back nine on Saturday, hit it like a champ and putted like a god. Let's not talk about the front nine. NFI

Lost the Gold Medal by one stroke... one bloody stroke.

anyway....

I want that right hip deeper on the backswing. If I can get that hip deeper - I can keep my arms close to my body.

Then on the downswing - I can drop the arms and rotate the right hip around the front hip instead of sliding everything on the downswing

If I ever look like that 4W again... someone please hit me.