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    Quote Originally Posted by virge666 View Post
    Because when it goes to shit, I know how to fix it.
    Are you saying that because you know your swing so well you can see through video what you're doing wrong when it turns to shit or are you seeking a visually perfect swing?




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    Quote Originally Posted by matty View Post
    Are you saying that because you know your swing so well you can see through video what you're doing wrong when it turns to shit or are you seeking a visually perfect swing?
    The leg drive is the big problem, always has been. When my swing goes walkabout - the leg drive is the problem and the resulting flip - I have spent the last two years trying to lose the leg drive.

    What I have found is that the leg drive disappears gradually at the range. after about an hour or so - the drive is gone and the right hip moves out. But when I get to the course... leg drive is back and I cant seem to get rid of it.

    So it is not about making a picture perfect swing... but it is about getting certain positions correct. For me - it is the first couple of frames back and a couple of frames after impact. I sort of ignore the rest of the swing to some extent.

    Right now - I like impact, I hate the takeaway.

    But - I am flushing it playing once a fortnight to a handicap of 2 and doing it easy.

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    What pros do you think have minimal or no leg drive? Someone the opposite to Bubba.




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    Quote Originally Posted by matty View Post
    What pros do you think have minimal or no leg drive? Someone the opposite to Bubba.
    Pretty much all golf pros don't leg drive the way I do it. Both knees go towards the target and my right butt cheek goes towards the ground. This results in my upper body weight going backwards, and the hands rotating too early closing the clubface and a hook to the left.

    What should happen, from the backswing... the left hip goes forward, the right hip goes back. They should be level when they do this. Then on the downswing... just like Ben in your avatar, the right hip goes out towards the ball and the left hip goes back... STAYING LEVEL !!!

    In my bad swing, I get the leg drive of both legs and the hips eventually rotate after moving about a foot the left.If you look up some OzGolf champ swings from Palm Meadows years ago - you will see that swing in all it's glory. I fkn hate that swing.

    If I go to the range, after about 20 mins, I have all manner of compensations to make it go straight - then after an hour, the hips magically start working properly, and I start flushing it... 2 days later at the course, I am back to square one using my hands to make the ball go straight'ish.

    I have changed the swing so that right hip moves out - a lot more than it use to stop the leg drive. I have given it something else to do so it doesn't slide left. And it seems to work. No idea why... but the ball flight is just awesome from ball one. I shot 3 over on gold medal day at Mona on Saturday without sinking any putts over 10 ft.

    Feels weird - but as you say - I cannot argue with the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virge666 View Post
    I shot 3 over on gold medal day at Mona on Saturday without sinking any putts over 10 ft.
    Nice. Imagine a round when they start rolling in! 3 under.

    Admit it, you can taste it.




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    There you go Virge, your trouble in in your concept of level hips. Pull up a skeleton of the pelvic area. See how the femur fits into the socket of the pelvis. When we turn the pelvis against a braced right leg and a resisting left leg, the right hip has to lift and the left lower. The shift forward is the reverse. Both backwards and forwards the hips work on a lateral turn. If they stay level there are compensations performed elsewhere and will lack resistance on both sides of the swing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matty View Post
    Nice. Imagine a round when they start rolling in! 3 under.

    Admit it, you can taste it.
    I can so taste it... been a long time since I have hit it this well.

    I can see scratch handicap, just there for the taking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razaar View Post
    There you go Virge, your trouble in in your concept of level hips. Pull up a skeleton of the pelvic area. See how the femur fits into the socket of the pelvis. When we turn the pelvis against a braced right leg and a resisting left leg, the right hip has to lift and the left lower. The shift forward is the reverse. Both backwards and forwards the hips work on a lateral turn. If they stay level there are compensations performed elsewhere and will lack resistance on both sides of the swing.
    With you Ray, can we just say a lot MORE LEVEL than they are in my earlier swings...

    Just like the Edwin Schimmy drill.

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    A little better looking but same motion.


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    A quick update lads.

    About a month ago i went to the range a bit pissed as what looked good at the range looked shit on video... Tony Sun and Dotty were both there and they simply said it looked good on the Range... and that basically, i was being a dick because I was trying to change the video when the ball flight and everything looked good.

    So I did... I threw the video equipment away and just grooved my swing on the range and went and played.

    Yesterday for the first time in 3 years, or ever since the new handicap system came in, I won a comp. First round of the club champs, and I shot 2 under to lead by 4 on one of the hardest days at Mona I have ever played, the green stimping at 12-13 and almost all the pins were tucked. Problem is - Shitbox rally starts on Thursday - so no more rounds to play in the champs.



    As a byline . . . ever since I have ignored the camera equipment - this has been golf link. The green were cored in late may which is why that score sucked a bit.

    38 points when I get back and we are off scratch !

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    Nice one, Virge!
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    Jeez its a been a great week for the Ozgolfers smashing through par. Well done Virge. Just think how much better you will be when I limit you to just the 10 clubs in the bag!

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    Good job mate, but did u get lost on the 19.04.13....Hahaha

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    Good work Virge. Hopefully you'll be able to keep playing enough.

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    Well done but I am not surprised after playing with you at Cabramatta recently. Your ball striking is solid for, what looks to me, to be a really simple effortless swing.....good luck with the rest of the rounds in the champs...stu
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    Great stuff.

    I can't agree more re: forgetting about video. I'm nowhere near your level, but I dropped quite a few shots after I just started to concentrate on my ball flight and ball flight only.

    Keep going Virge. Scratch a a plus h/c isn't far off.
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    Virge, speaking about your leg action, do me a favour and try this, if only for some comic material.

    On your downswing/impact attempt to drive your left knee to the right. In other words the opposite direction it should be going. Then tell me want happened.
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    Well done Virge.

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    Bumping for an update Virge





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    One has to play golf in which to make an update.

    My 20 games in golf link still include the four under at the champs in 2013.

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    Oh. Injury or other lifestyle choices?





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    Lost the bug I reckon..,

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteyD View Post
    Oh. Injury or other lifestyle choices?
    Quote Originally Posted by dee cee View Post
    Lost the bug I reckon..,
    SOld the company so drowning in admin and new challenges.

    playing tomorrow @ Elanora and may even have 2 games on the weekend as the family have left me.

    could double in 3 days...

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    Ah yea I remember now.





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