Best Gross in a Mixed Competition?

[IanL]

Consider a Sat mixed competition, ladies play off a forward tee (CR 71) and the men off a back tee (CR 73). A female shoots 67 gross, and a male 69 gross. Who wins best gross?

[AndyP]

Is mixed gross a thing?

[goughy]

Surely would have to be a count back, whichever 9 they do first, and then onto indexing etc etc.
I mean, they have hole indexing etc, two different 9s.

[jimandr]

Strange first post. Thanks for joining our community, IanL.

Nevertheless, assuming we are talking one comp for all players, which is generally called a medley, best gross is the lowest score. Doesn't matter which tee it is played from.

Any male who thinks the female has an unfair advantage should refuse to play. But any male who thinks winning a gross in a medley event is important probably should think about why they are playing golf at all.

To answer Andy's question, we play medley on Monday, Thursday and Friday, but we do not have a gross prize in those events.

[virge666]

Female wins.. best gross score. But isnt that just the scratch score ?

there again.. scratch is all we care about as we cant compete with handicaps.

[Dotty]

The answer will be whoever is sleeping with the captain.

That is the only logical reason that a club would have a prize for best mixed gross score.

[3Puttpete]

Our Sunday comps are always medley comps. Best score wins, simples.

[goughy]

Yeah, but not best gross score!

[3Puttpete]

Gross, net, stableford, par…what’s it matter?

The comp is the comp. If you’re in it you can win it.

[LeftyHoges]

But any male who thinks winning a gross in a medley event is important probably should think about why they are playing golf at all.

You may want to reconsider this.

[Courty]

I've always thought that if golfers were playing different courses (i.e. tees) on the same day then they should be considered different competitions and should have seperate prizes awarded.

[WBennett]

I've always thought that if golfers were playing different courses (i.e. tees) on the same day then they should be considered different competitions and should have seperate prizes awarded.

You don't have medley comps at Cairns?

[LeftyHoges]

You don't have medley comps at Cairns?

Nope. Mens is mens and womens is womens and never the twain shall meet.

I don't really understand why you would combine the two in the first place?

[virge666]

Nope. Mens is mens and womens is womens and never the twain shall meet.

I don't really understand why you would combine the two in the first place?

Im with Lefty. your comparing Cucumbers with Melons.

[LeftyHoges]

Im with Lefty. your comparing Cucumbers with Melons.

Tee hee. I see what you did there. Rascal.

[WBennett]

Nope. Mens is mens and womens is womens and never the twain shall meet.I don't really understand why you would combine the two in the first place?

Our Tuesday open is Medley, our chook run is Medley, and we regularly have medleys on Sunday if there are not 8 or more women in the field.Never bothered me in any way to be honest

[AndyP]

I don't really understand why you would combine the two in the first place?

Lack of numbers otherwise. Usually Stableford though.

[markTHEblake]

The comp is not discriminating, best gross wins. Anyone who identifies as female can hit off the red tees.

[Courty]

You don't have medley comps at Cairns?

They used to many years ago... but only on Sundays from memory. Too long ago to remember the details now.

[Courty]

I also recall a discussion about one of the multi-round tournaments (CoC or Club Champs, can't recall which). The pumphouse tee was in play on the old 11th (now the 2nd), and the old blokes complained that it was too long, especially in a stroke round. Their proposal was for C Grade to play off the regular tee box, and A & B to play off the pumphouse tee. It was rejected due to them technically playing a different course, which would require a different rating, ACR etc. etc.

[WBennett]

We are investigating pick your own tee.
All in the same comp, different course ratings depending on the tee.

Only held back by software at the moment

[Courty]

Only held back by software at the moment

This may well be the biggest sticking point. Certainly at the time of that discussion, the antiquated software didn't have the capability to host multiple comps in the one day.

[markTHEblake]

County, i beleive the unified world handicap system allows for different rated courses in the same comp, and is suggested because of obvious benefit like you described. but yeah, software needs allow for it too.

[PerryGroves]

We are investigating pick your own tee.
All in the same comp, different course ratings depending on the tee.

Only held back by software at the moment

We have the software, biggest blue is now NTPs.

I started a medal day on the back nine, the hole was playing into the wind and 175m to the pin, hit it to 3ft, apparently stayed there all day until someone playing off the reds from 65m in front of me scooped the prize.

[Johnny Canuck]

Our club gives the option of blue and white, but not the reds.

This was due to a day off the reds where a few of the oldies got angry because a few balls ended up in greenside bunkers on par 4 when a few of the young bombers hit.

The club worried about injury/conflict and potentially slow fields if groups are waiting for greens to clear on par 4s.

I never thought about the ntp issue, but it is a very valid argument.