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[pt73]

A field of Fatprick Read, Pat Perez, Paul Casey and Lee Westwood. Shut up and take my money.

You forgot Henrik Stenson who's reported to have signed too.

That's an interesting one as he's been named the Ryder Cup captain so the DP Tour have a decision to make there.

[benno_r]

Suck it PGA/DP tour. Can't wait for LIV to burn it all to the ground.

At least there will be one tour for me to not watch, instead of lots. Though as long as Jordan Spieth isn't in LIV, I'm at least a chance of watching.

[3Puttpete]

The way it’s going they’re going to have better fields than most PGA Toyr events. Less players really is more.

At which point all those who are staying with the PGA Tour because they’re only interested in playing against the best competition will have a decision to make.

[WBennett]

You forgot Henrik Stenson who's reported to have signed too.

That's an interesting one as he's been named the Ryder Cup captain so the DP Tour have a decision to make there.

I suspect he will be relieved of duties.

Does the Ryder Cup now come into question. Not best of best any more. So does it go mixed?

[pt73]

I suspect he will be relieved of duties.

Does the Ryder Cup now come into question. Not best of best any more. So does it go mixed?

Norman will say that's petty too, maybe he'll announce his own event, the Khashoggi Cup.

[Ron Burgundy]

Pres cup should definitely go mixed. Might be the only chance of the internationals ever winning one.

[ParkRoyal]

The Australian “Tour” won’t have the cods to ban any Liv contracted player from playing events. They get next to nobody playing now so they will have no chance of getting sponsors to prop up events.

Other tours will struggle to keep the dollars flowing in as well (except Asia).

I can genuinely see this being the best thing that’s happened to golf in a long time. America thinks that the world revolves around it and they have what’s coming to them now that somebody has the financial backing.

Despite what I have said previously (Saudi sportswashing etc). From an Aus point of view it could actually be good, even if not aligned with LIV there might be the opportunity to get the bigger names to Aus events as they aren't tied to PGA events.
The change of the PGA season really put the fork in the Aus tour (and South Africa)

[Johnny Canuck]

I thought it was in here, but couldn't find it with a quick scan.

Can someone quickly explain exemptions from the PGA and why the Aussies don't get to come back and play in their home events? It had something to do with a limited number of exemptions that they generally used in other big events.

I may have also read this completely somewhere else, but if anyone knows, I'll take the explanation.

[PerryGroves]

The Australian “Tour” won’t have the cods to ban any Liv contracted player from playing events. They get next to nobody playing now so they will have no chance of getting sponsors to prop up events.

Other tours will struggle to keep the dollars flowing in as well (except Asia).

I can genuinely see this being the best thing that’s happened to golf in a long time. America thinks that the world revolves around it and they have what’s coming to them now that somebody has the financial backing.

Won't we go back to the start of the decline, where tournaments had to pay appearance fees to get players down here, problem now is what do you need to pay to convince a LIV guy to play.......$10m? or maybe Pat Perez will come down if we comp him a private jet/entourage expenses and bung him $5m (proper dollars)

[WBennett]

I thought it was in here, but couldn't find it with a quick scan.

Can someone quickly explain exemptions from the PGA and why the Aussies don't get to come back and play in their home events? It had something to do with a limited number of exemptions that they generally used in other big events.

I may have also read this completely somewhere else, but if anyone knows, I'll take the explanation.

They did receive exemptions, but most were trying to get ahead to secure their cards in the meaningless wrap around season with weak fields and better opportunity. For guys like Scotty and Leish, they had a locked in card so it wasn't a problem, and Smith backed himself for a week or two at home. But a lot of the 100-200 money order guys were playing for cards that were to be decided 10 months later.

[WBennett]

Won't we go back to the start of the decline, where tournaments had to pay appearance fees to get players down here, problem now is what do you need to pay to convince a LIV guy to play.......$10m? or maybe Pat Perez will come down if we comp him a private jet/entourage expenses and bung him $5m (proper dollars)

Woods collected $3m for the Masters in 2009. Cost him a lot more for the divorce though.

[3Puttpete]

If we play our tournament on proper golf courses some of the established PGA Tour players will come down because they don’t have to worry about the PGA Tour events late in the year.

[PerryGroves]

If we play our tournament on proper golf courses some of the established PGA Tour players will come down because they don’t have to worry about the PGA Tour events late in the year.

Or they won't, Australian Open this year is a week after Thanksgiving,

[Johnny Canuck]

They did receive exemptions, but most were trying to get ahead to secure their cards in the meaningless wrap around season with weak fields and better opportunity. For guys like Scotty and Leish, they had a locked in card so it wasn't a problem, and Smith backed himself for a week or two at home. But a lot of the 100-200 money order guys were playing for cards that were to be decided 10 months later.

I thought it had something to do with a limited number of exemptions and the fact they used them for other events.

[WBennett]

I thought it had something to do with a limited number of exemptions and the fact they used them for other events.

Scotty used to play 2 or 3 events here, a couple in the middle east and occasionally in Singapore.He didn't seem to have issues playing everywhere

[Yossarian]

Playing in the middle east was an early red flag about him.

[Yossarian]

https://theintercept.com/2018/10/26/...g-tareq-ayoub/.

Never had benno down as a dubya fan boi but moral crusaders do find strange bedfellows.

[Minor_Threat]

https://youtu.be/k_zEcg1EcB4

[pt73]

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/hen...-liv-golf-jump

I read that he lost tens of millions in the investment scam run by Allen Stanford.

[pt73]

https://www.golfwrx.com/688287/go-f-...-s-t-question/

Graph of potential OWGR changes is interesting.

[jimandr]

Field announced for the next event, in one week's time. I can hardly wait to see Charles Howell 111 in action again.

Perhaps more significantly, no other blockbuster announcements. Maybe the strategy (if the strategy is more than simply cause damage to the rivals) is to drip feed new signings one event at a time. Otherwise, I see no reason why Matsuyama, Fleetwood, Leishman, etc, wouldn't be playing next week.

At least Jed Morgan and Travis Smyth get one more start before they get cut adrift. Blake Windred seems to have missed out.

[pt73]

Field announced for the next event, in one week's time. I can hardly wait to see Charles Howell 111 in action again.

Perhaps more significantly, no other blockbuster announcements. Maybe the strategy (if the strategy is more than simply cause damage to the rivals) is to drip feed new signings one event at a time. Otherwise, I see no reason why Matsuyama, Fleetwood, Leishman, etc, wouldn't be playing next week.

At least Jed Morgan and Travis Smyth get one more start before they get cut adrift. Blake Windred seems to have missed out.

I'm not that surprised that a player like CHIII or Pat Perez signs up when they're in the 40s and haven't won for a few years, 54 holes with no cut would be enticing.

I was wondering what happens to the lower ranked players when higher profile ones are added, I guess the important issue is whether they get paid the remainder of their sign on fees (assuming they got one).

[Dactyloscopy Dan]

Norman has said somewhere this week (I think it was mentioned on NLU) that the books are full for the season and all the early adopters are getting looked after regardless of whether they get a game, as they acknowledge their role in getting the first events off the ground.

[pt73]

Norman has said somewhere this week (I think it was mentioned on NLU) that the books are full for the season and all the early adopters are getting looked after regardless of whether they get a game, as they acknowledge their role in getting the first events off the ground.

I doubt he had much choice, they’re getting enough bad press without the stragglers going public saying they got stiffed when they were dropped.

[Matt 3 Jab]

Field announced for the next event, in one week's time. I can hardly wait to see Charles Howell 111 in action again.

Perhaps more significantly, no other blockbuster announcements. Maybe the strategy (if the strategy is more than simply cause damage to the rivals) is to drip feed new signings one event at a time. Otherwise, I see no reason why Matsuyama, Fleetwood, Leishman, etc, wouldn't be playing next week.

At least Jed Morgan and Travis Smyth get one more start before they get cut adrift. Blake Windred seems to have missed out.

Possibly waiting until after presidents cup and or the end of this season on PGA and starting fresh.

Seems an all Aussie team of Adam Scott, cam smith and liesh could be on the cards.

Also could lead to an event in Australia

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