Afl 2022

[Toxic]

Another entry into my file on how professional the AFL is compared to the NRL.Throbber Thorburn survives one day as CEO of Essendon............jaysus you fools, its called basic due diligence.

Which bank was he with?Where was their due diligence

[PerryGroves]

Which bank was he with?Where was their due diligence

NAB....different world in 2005 when he started.

If I recall at the time, I had more issues with him being a Kiwi than anything of a fundamentalist religious nature.

[3Puttpete]

Another entry into my file on how professional the AFL is compared to the NRL.

Throbber Thorburn survives one day as CEO of Essendon............jaysus you fools, its called basic due diligence.

Nobody had a problem when he was at the nab pumping money into the AFL.

[Kelsey86]

He only joined this so called church 2 or 3 years ago. Doesn't sound like he shares the more extreme views those clowns hold but still, being the chairman or whatever he is of it does create a conflict I suppose.

[markTHEblake]

What are these extreme views that they hold?

[3Puttpete]

He only joined this so called church 2 or 3 years ago. Doesn't sound like he shares the more extreme views those clowns hold but still, being the chairman or whatever he is of it does create a conflict I suppose.

He said as much on radio this morning.

[LeftyHoges]

What are these extreme views that they hold?

City on a Hill (the "church"), which has equated abortion with concentration camps and claims “practising homosexuality is a sin”.

[3Puttpete]

To be fair, they also seem to be very strongly in the Ross Lyon camp of hate the sin, love the sinner so they’re not quite as extreme as some.

[Webster]

City on a Hill (the "church"), which has equated abortion with concentration camps and claims “practising homosexuality is a sin”.

Without knowing anything about what this bloke must have said or done, I thought it might be female genital mutilation or forced veiling of the women, but well there you go.

[WBennett]

Didn't he resign from NAB in a level of disgrace after the Royal Commission? Leaving a bank due to failures in governance you oversaw hardly has you as a sterling character for managing a football club anyway.

[Kelsey86]

Didn't he resign from NAB in a level of disgrace after the Royal Commission? Leaving a bank due to failures in governance you oversaw hardly has you as a sterling character for managing a football club anyway.

Yes he did. They stole $650 million from customers, some of whom were dead, in fees for nothing, and he just brushed it off as an "accident". Putting the toxic religious BS aside, that alone should have been enough for him to not even be appointed in the first place.

[Captain Nemo]

Sounds like a great bloke, lol….

[markTHEblake]

City on a Hill (the "church"), which has equated abortion with concentration camps and claims “practising homosexuality is a sin”.

Thats not extreme, over half the worlds people of faith agrees with these two moral positions, standard orthodox religious view and its not even exclusive to religion. The media lies about the equating of abortion to concentration camps, but thats no surprise there.

Without knowing anything about what this bloke must have said or done, I thought it might be female genital mutilation or forced veiling of the women, but well there you go.

Thats a different religion, but cant discriminate against them, thats illegal.

[Kelsey86]

Thats not extreme, over half the worlds people of faith agrees with these two moral positions, standard orthodox religious view and its not even exclusive to religion. The media lies about the equating of abortion to concentration camps, but thats no surprise there.

So what the rest of us just pretend it's ok to promote that sort of toxic archaic BS do we? Or do we do what we've done with numerous other "moral positions" that are no longer accepted and stand up against it?Of course people can believe whatever they want, equally others are free to criticise harmful beliefs, it might just make some people reconsider their position. They cry about being marginalised because of their beliefs - which they choose to hold, yet they do the exact same thing to people who have no choice about who they are. But it shouldn't be a surprise really, hypocrisy is pretty much standard practice when it comes to religion. Why would the media make up something like that? It's far less of a surprise to me that a cult like that would actually hold such views. Those sorts of organisations are not exactly known for being moderate in their beliefs.

[3Puttpete]

So what the rest of us just pretend it's ok to promote that sort of toxic archaic BS do we? Or do we do what we've done with numerous other "moral positions" that are no longer accepted and stand up against it?Of course people can believe whatever they want, equally others are free to criticise harmful beliefs, it might just make some people reconsider their position. They cry about being marginalised because of their beliefs - which they choose to hold, yet they do the exact same thing to people who have no choice about who they are. But it shouldn't be a surprise really, hypocrisy is pretty much standard practice when it comes to religion. Why would the media make up something like that? It's far less of a surprise to me that a cult like that would actually hold such views. Those sorts of organisations are not exactly known for being moderate in their beliefs.

I don’t know if there’s anything in this bloke’s actions or words to indicate he shares these beliefs.

[markTHEblake]

So what the rest of us just pretend it's ok to promote that sort of toxic archaic BS do we?

Who are they promoting it too? Every quote attributed to them in the media and elsewhere is from "in house" resources. To read it you have to go looking for it.

Now when we had the vote we had to have, the lobbyists promised over and over again ( and many ozgolfers), that all they wanted is to get married and that, anyone will be free to keep their religious and moral beleifs. Well, we knew that was a lie then, and this case is proof of that again. Thorburn is not the first that they have gone for, and wont be the last.

Funny that Thorburn signed NAB up to the YES vote when he was in charge there. Seems that doesnt count for much.

[Kelsey86]

I don’t know if there’s anything in this bloke’s actions or words to indicate he shares these beliefs.

I don't think he does either, but the cult he runs does and that's where the conflict exists.

[3Puttpete]

I don't think he does either, but the cult he runs does and that's where the conflict exists.

Does it though?

[WBennett]

I see the whataboutism around Zreika making herself unavailable has already begun.

[3Puttpete]

I see the whataboutism around Zreika making herself unavailable has already begun.

2 things can be wrong at the same time

[LeftyHoges]

Thats not extreme, over half the worlds people of faith agrees with these two moral positions, standard orthodox religious view and its not even exclusive to religion. The media lies about the equating of abortion to concentration camps, but thats no surprise there.

I'm sorry? Equating abortion to concentration camps (whether you have to go looking for it or not) and "practicing homosexuality is a sin" is not extreme? But then again, you sum it up with "people of faith". ****ing idiots.

[Kelsey86]

Who are they promoting it too? Every quote attributed to them in the media and elsewhere is from "in house" resources. To read it you have to go looking for it. Now when we had the vote we had to have, the lobbyists promised over and over again ( and many ozgolfers), that all they wanted is to get married and that, anyone will be free to keep their religious and moral beleifs. Well, we knew that was a lie then, and this case is proof of that again. Thorburn is not the first that they have gone for, and wont be the last. Funny that Thorburn signed NAB up to the YES vote when he was in charge there. Seems that doesnt count for much.

It's on their website for all to see what they stand for, that's promotion. Nobody is denying people the right to believe whatever they believe, but people also have the right not to be vilified by these morons simply for being born a certain way. The beliefs themselves have no rights, they are not magically immune from criticism or scrutiny just because they are religious in nature/origin.

[Kelsey86]

Does it though?

I don't think you can be a leader of two organisations at the same time that have completely opposing values. If he was just a regular church member like some of the players probably are then it may be different, but how they missed or ignored how he left nab is more of an issue I would have thought.

[PerryGroves]

I don't think you can be a leader of two organisations at the same time that have completely opposing values. If he was just a regular church member like some of the players probably are then it may be different, but how they missed or ignored how he left nab is more of an issue I would have thought.

The most dangerous are the ones who hide in plain sight.

[Captain Nemo]

Aye Spud Greene wants out of your beloved Giants…?