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    Default Minimal offset iron suggestions with some forgiveness

    Checking to see if any irons have come out in the last 6 years that might fit the bill.

    I currently have 2010 TM R9 TP B stamps and 2014 TM TP CB's

    The R9 TP B irons are by far the best looking irons I have have played with virtually zero visible offset, but are not exactly forgiving as they might as well be a blade and I am not playing a lot of golf ATM, the TM CB irons are forgiving enough but have slightly too much offset for my liking thru the whole set.

    So looking for something with similar forgiveness to the TP CB's with less offset. Pings, Callaway and Mizuno have generally always had to much offset for my liking, even the Titleist AP2 has a very similar offset to the TM CB's on paper.

    Any suggestions?

    Offset on current irons in millimetres and inches.

    R9 TP B
    4. 1.7 - 0.067
    5. 1.5 - 0.06
    6. 1.3 - 0.05
    7. 1.1 - 0.043
    8. 0.9 - 0.035
    9. 0.7 - 0.027
    PW. 0.5 - 0.019

    TP CB
    4. 4.4 - 0.173
    5. 3.6 - 0.141
    6. 3.1 - 0.122
    7. 2.8 - 0.11
    8. 2.4 - 0.094
    9. 2.1 - 0.082
    PW. 1.8 - 0.07


    As you can see the R9 4 iron has less offset that the CB PW

    Link below to my WITB if you want to see what I have played before, favorites over the years would be R9 TP B stamps, Maxfli Revolution Black and A10 Combo, and Apex Blades.

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    Last edited by goonie; 2nd September 2021 at 06:56 AM.
    WITB
    Ping G430 LST 9 @10 - Hzrdus Black RDX 60 6.0
    Ping G425 Max 17.5* - Tensei AV Blue 65S
    Titleist TSi2 21* - Hzrdus Black RDX 70 6.0
    Ping G400 23.5 - Vista Pro 80 S or Ping G425 4 Hybrid
    Ping i210 5-PW - Modus 3 Tour 105 S
    Vokey SM9 50F - Modus Wedge 105
    Vokey SM9 54D & 60K -Modus 3 Tour 120 S
    Scotty Phantom 5

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    Golfworks/Maltby DBM, TSE or TS1
    https://www.golfworks.com/heads/c/10...q100000000198/

    I have the DBM and heaps of people assume they are some snazzy jap stuff.

    They are bringing out a new blade later this year.
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    Wilson Staff Model CB and the older FG v6 have fairly low offset I believe

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    Mizuno 825 forged.

    Thats why i bought them

    https://www.golfalot.com/equipment-r...view-2996.aspx

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    Wilson FG v6 tour however do not have the strong lofts
    in the bag
    Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo
    RBZ tour spoon BT8M3 stiff
    HB 910 19deg Matrix O white x stiff
    Wilson staff FGV6 Tour Forged irons
    wedges trusty tour 50; 54; 58
    SC FB no1 or SC red X
    and stuff in the pocketsT7M3 S

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    Srixon zx-7


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    If you want maximum forgiveness and minimal offset, the Cleveland HB Turbo 7 irons has 1.73mm offset.

    Ping G430 LST
    Ping G410 5 wood
    Ping G425/Mizuno FliHi hybrids
    Cleveland XL Halo driving irons
    Cleveland Zipcore XL Irons
    Cleveland CBX Zipcore wedges
    Odyssey Rossie OG

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    You need to take a serious look at Wilson irons.. the v6 have a tonne of forgiveness for a smallish head and have less offset than your current irons. The lofts are traditional though. The alternative is the D7 Forged, stronger lofts and larger head but still very low offset, very similar offset specs to what you are playing.
    Huge plus is the price, they are much cheaper than the bigger brands but are just as good IMO.

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    See if you can find a set of 2014 TM TP MC irons. They are a bit smaller than the CB's but less offset and the 8-PW are forged. Really nice irons.

    Or, if you want to go with one of the suggestions above (Srixon ZX7 irons) I've got a mint set, 3-GW (9 irons) modus 120 stiff shafts that I'm looking to offload I've also got a set of Srixon 545's (4-PW) that are awesome irons. Maybe a touch more offset than the TP CB's but A LOT more forgiving and they don't look big or clunky llike some cavity backs.

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    I have a set of pretty mint z965 irons 3 to P , very small offset on these


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    Had a look at some of the current models in the shops today, except ping no one had any ping players models, and the Cobra King Tour looked good, and the Titleist T100s looked awesome, they didn't have the standard T100.
    WITB
    Ping G430 LST 9 @10 - Hzrdus Black RDX 60 6.0
    Ping G425 Max 17.5* - Tensei AV Blue 65S
    Titleist TSi2 21* - Hzrdus Black RDX 70 6.0
    Ping G400 23.5 - Vista Pro 80 S or Ping G425 4 Hybrid
    Ping i210 5-PW - Modus 3 Tour 105 S
    Vokey SM9 50F - Modus Wedge 105
    Vokey SM9 54D & 60K -Modus 3 Tour 120 S
    Scotty Phantom 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazz18 View Post
    See if you can find a set of 2014 TM TP MC irons. They are a bit smaller than the CB's but less offset and the 8-PW are forged. Really nice irons.

    Or, if you want to go with one of the suggestions above (Srixon ZX7 irons) I've got a mint set, 3-GW (9 irons) modus 120 stiff shafts that I'm looking to offload I've also got a set of Srixon 545's (4-PW) that are awesome irons. Maybe a touch more offset than the TP CB's but A LOT more forgiving and they don't look big or clunky llike some cavity backs.
    Dare I ask how much?
    WITB
    Ping G430 LST 9 @10 - Hzrdus Black RDX 60 6.0
    Ping G425 Max 17.5* - Tensei AV Blue 65S
    Titleist TSi2 21* - Hzrdus Black RDX 70 6.0
    Ping G400 23.5 - Vista Pro 80 S or Ping G425 4 Hybrid
    Ping i210 5-PW - Modus 3 Tour 105 S
    Vokey SM9 50F - Modus Wedge 105
    Vokey SM9 54D & 60K -Modus 3 Tour 120 S
    Scotty Phantom 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by backintheswing View Post
    I have a set of pretty mint z965 irons 3 to P , very small offset on these
    Aren't they blades?
    WITB
    Ping G430 LST 9 @10 - Hzrdus Black RDX 60 6.0
    Ping G425 Max 17.5* - Tensei AV Blue 65S
    Titleist TSi2 21* - Hzrdus Black RDX 70 6.0
    Ping G400 23.5 - Vista Pro 80 S or Ping G425 4 Hybrid
    Ping i210 5-PW - Modus 3 Tour 105 S
    Vokey SM9 50F - Modus Wedge 105
    Vokey SM9 54D & 60K -Modus 3 Tour 120 S
    Scotty Phantom 5

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    I wonder if AP2's have a similar offset to the T100?
    WITB
    Ping G430 LST 9 @10 - Hzrdus Black RDX 60 6.0
    Ping G425 Max 17.5* - Tensei AV Blue 65S
    Titleist TSi2 21* - Hzrdus Black RDX 70 6.0
    Ping G400 23.5 - Vista Pro 80 S or Ping G425 4 Hybrid
    Ping i210 5-PW - Modus 3 Tour 105 S
    Vokey SM9 50F - Modus Wedge 105
    Vokey SM9 54D & 60K -Modus 3 Tour 120 S
    Scotty Phantom 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by goonie View Post
    Aren't they blades?
    Muscle back blades with minimal offset and forgiveness.


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    Would AP2’s bw similar in forgiviness to my TM CB’s ?
    WITB
    Ping G430 LST 9 @10 - Hzrdus Black RDX 60 6.0
    Ping G425 Max 17.5* - Tensei AV Blue 65S
    Titleist TSi2 21* - Hzrdus Black RDX 70 6.0
    Ping G400 23.5 - Vista Pro 80 S or Ping G425 4 Hybrid
    Ping i210 5-PW - Modus 3 Tour 105 S
    Vokey SM9 50F - Modus Wedge 105
    Vokey SM9 54D & 60K -Modus 3 Tour 120 S
    Scotty Phantom 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobsYourUncle View Post
    Wilson Staff Model CB and the older FG v6 have fairly low offset I believe
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Wilson FG v6 tour however do not have the strong lofts
    Both of these look good and are on my list, lofts sit between my 2 existing sets.
    WITB
    Ping G430 LST 9 @10 - Hzrdus Black RDX 60 6.0
    Ping G425 Max 17.5* - Tensei AV Blue 65S
    Titleist TSi2 21* - Hzrdus Black RDX 70 6.0
    Ping G400 23.5 - Vista Pro 80 S or Ping G425 4 Hybrid
    Ping i210 5-PW - Modus 3 Tour 105 S
    Vokey SM9 50F - Modus Wedge 105
    Vokey SM9 54D & 60K -Modus 3 Tour 120 S
    Scotty Phantom 5

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    Narrowed my list down to the below ATM, any votes for which would be more forgiving?

    TM PSi Tour
    TM TP MC
    Ping iBlade
    Ping i500
    Wilson Staff CB
    Wilson FG V6
    WITB
    Ping G430 LST 9 @10 - Hzrdus Black RDX 60 6.0
    Ping G425 Max 17.5* - Tensei AV Blue 65S
    Titleist TSi2 21* - Hzrdus Black RDX 70 6.0
    Ping G400 23.5 - Vista Pro 80 S or Ping G425 4 Hybrid
    Ping i210 5-PW - Modus 3 Tour 105 S
    Vokey SM9 50F - Modus Wedge 105
    Vokey SM9 54D & 60K -Modus 3 Tour 120 S
    Scotty Phantom 5

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    I haven't hit all of them, but find the wilsons to be very forgiving. Tungsten in the 4-7 helps get it airborne, and the head still looks nice and compact at address.

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    ZX5 are the most underrated irons at the moment. Only $161 per iron with Drummond Club Members. That is amazing value compared to all the other premium irons on the market. I just ordered a second custom set this morning given the price. Mad not to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Planet Golf View Post
    ZX5 are the most underrated irons at the moment. Only $161 per iron with Drummond Club Members. That is amazing value compared to all the other premium irons on the market. I just ordered a second custom set this morning given the price. Mad not to
    I paid $162.15 per iron; a price I thought was unbeatable so you have certainly done well.

    I notice Drummond are starting to pull their finger out a bit with deals now, certainly well overdue

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    Got a set of Raw Cobra Forged CB Heads in pretty good nick here, owe me $400ish
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    I play a combo set of ZX5/ZX7 and the transition is really well done between the two. To the extent I have a set of ZX7s that need a new home because I don't want to give up the extra help the ZX5s offer.

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    ZX7 iron offsets

    HEAD OFFSET(mm)
    3 - 3.6
    4 - 3.5
    5 - 3.4
    6 - 3.2
    7 - 2.9
    8 - 2.4
    9 - 2.0
    PW - 1.8

    ZX5 iron offsets

    HEAD OFFSET(mm)
    3 - 4.2
    4 - 4.0
    5 - 3.8
    6 - 3.5
    7 - 3.2
    8 - 3.0
    9 - 2.7
    PW - 2.4
    Last edited by NewyMitch; 4th September 2021 at 03:19 PM.

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    I paid around the $160 mark for my Z Forged. Srixon are really good clubs at the moment (drivers and fairways too) and have been for a while. Great value. They do have a bit more offset than some of the other options listed here though.


 

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