Covid-19

[LeftyHoges]

Yep, just what I thought. Simplistic, primary school playground mentality. Why would I think you would offer anything more.

You really are lacking imagination.

Adiós!

You took the worlds largest amount of offence at me calling you a dolt, yet you're okay with calling me a sook and "winding me up"?

This hasn't gone well for you, old chap.

[damoocow]

May I suggest this classic thread as a circuit breaker...

https://www.ozgolf.net/showthread.ph...you-rent-a-cat

[LeftyHoges]

May I suggest this classic thread as a circuit breaker...

https://www.ozgolf.net/showthread.ph...you-rent-a-cat

Oh, you don't want to know the issues I have with THAT particular thread.

[thecollective]

thought this might also lighten the mood....

[Courty]

[markTHEblake]

How does any of that even relate to what I said?

Fair question. I was trying not to be provocative by being less direct/personal. Its a difficult topic, everyone is frustrated with Covid and the lockdowns and we all want to get back to normal, there remains no joy in seeing a close knit community at loggerheads. I assume you agree with my comment otherwise the first thing you would have done is say so, Allow me to rephrase and also referring your next important comment as well because it follows on.

No, because if they're vaccinated they're fine. They've done their part in accepting this responsibility put onto the human race.

As the vaccinated are fine and in light of the fact that a vaccinated person can still get covid and be infectious, why is a formerly infected person (not vaccinated) with natural immunity not fine? Which means in NSW they cant play golf.

In your retail example I'd be much happier having a staff member with a compo claim than having 5 dead staff members who contracted COVID from some phuckwit. How's that for your hypothetical?

but you said the vaccinated are fine! so how could some un-vaccinated person cause them to die?
This sounds very much like Bidens recent announcement "we must protect the vaccinated from the vaccinated", but nobody seems to be to explain that contradiction.

Like it or lump it, there's only one way out of this. Vaccinations.

Experts worldwise are repeatedly saying the way out of this is a multi faceted approach that includes Vaccinations but nothing on its own is enough. Vaccinations+Hygiene+health+herd immunity+protect the vulnerable+treat the infected+ etc.

nor is Universal vaccination part of the solution (and should not be).



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Trust the Science
Science.org 26/08/2021 "For many infectious diseases, naturally acquired immunity is known to be more powerful than vaccine-induced immunity and it often lasts a lifetime"

[markTHEblake]

On the topic of "can an employer force vaccinations on its employees" (and sack them if they dont)
Short answer is, such a requirement must be both lawful and reasonable.

In Australia, it is definitely lawful, whether reasonable is not so straightforward.
For a Golf Course hypothetical, for the professional coaching staff, Probably reasonable. The greenkeeper, probably not reasonable

Full article for your joy.

[Ron Burgundy]

This whole thread seems to have turned into a vax mandate argument, which is pointless. It’s pretty simple. If you don’t like a government policy, vote for someone else next time. If you don’t like an employer’s policy, work somewhere else. If you don’t like a club’s policy, don’t be a member there.

Life is full of choices and consequences. Make your choice, live with the consequences and move on.

[LeftyHoges]

This whole thread seems to have turned into a vax mandate argument, which is pointless. It’s pretty simple. If you don’t like a government policy, vote for someone else next time. If you don’t like an employer’s policy, work somewhere else. If you don’t like a club’s policy, don’t be a member there.

Life is full of choices and consequences. Make your choice, live with the consequences and move on.

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*Just typing this part in lower case so that the part above stays in upper case *

[LeftyHoges]

Fair question. I was trying not to be provocative by being less direct/personal. Its a difficult topic, everyone is frustrated with Covid and the lockdowns and we all want to get back to normal, there remains no joy in seeing a close knit community at loggerheads. I assume you agree with my comment otherwise the first thing you would have done is say so, Allow me to rephrase and also referring your next important comment as well because it follows on.

I completely disregarded your comment because it was completely irrelevant to what I said. Don't assume anything.

As the vaccinated are fine and in light of the fact that a vaccinated person can still get covid and be infectious, why is a formerly infected person (not vaccinated) with natural immunity not fine? Which means in NSW they cant play golf.

Have I once mentioned those who have already been infected? You'll very much find that's a big no there, chief.

As for any argument about playing golf, I couldn't give five ****s about playing golf. Golf couldn't be more irrelevant in these discussions.

but you said the vaccinated are fine! so how could some un-vaccinated person cause them to die?
This sounds very much like Bidens recent announcement "we must protect the vaccinated from the vaccinated", but nobody seems to be to explain that contradiction.

I said the vaccinated are fine to be free from being "segregated" (not the term I want to use but let's just go along with it), not that they're going to be fine going forward health-wise. **** sake.

Experts worldwise are repeatedly saying the way out of this is a multi faceted approach that includes Vaccinations but nothing on its own is enough. Vaccinations+Hygiene+health+herd immunity+protect the vulnerable+treat the infected+ etc.

nor is Universal vaccination part of the solution (and should not be).

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Trust the Science
Science.org 26/08/2021 "For many infectious diseases, naturally acquired immunity is known to be more powerful than vaccine-induced immunity and it often lasts a lifetime"

Interesting that the title of the article you quote literally says "Vaccination remains vital". Sure, the natural human immune system probably does work better than a vaccine. But are you happy to flood the already overworked health system with 5 million cases to create this "natural herd immunity"? Just a hundred thousand deaths or so. That's acceptable instead of getting a little jab in your arm, yeah?

[Jazz18]

You guys are so blind. It's like you're driving while only focusing on the bumper bar of the car in front of you. You won't see what's coming till it's too late.

[thecollective]

The end is nigh


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[Jazz18]

The end is nigh


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Mock me all you like, I don't give a shit. But if you can't see the complexity of this issue and think there's a black and white solution, you are blind.

[LeftyHoges]

Mock me all you like

Thank you, I think we will....

[Dotty]

You guys are so blind. It's like you're driving while only focusing on the bumper bar of the car in front of you. You won't see what's coming till it's too late.

Staying in garage will minimise the risk of being hit.

[Yossarian]

If the concern is about our democracy, then I'd be more worried about new ASIO et al powers than this public health issue. But hey.

[Steve57]

Staying in garage will minimise the risk of being hit.

That must be why Gladys is keeping you locked up Dotty, she doesn't want you to hit the car in front of you!

[WBennett]

If the concern is about our democracy, then I'd be more worried about new ASIO et al powers than this public health issue. But hey.

The creeping surveillance state?

https://www.startupdaily.net/2021/09...twitter-posts/

[thecollective]

Pete Evans our savior


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[WBennett]

Pete Evans our savior


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Does he activate your almonds?

[3Puttpete]

The creeping surveillance state?

https://www.startupdaily.net/2021/09...twitter-posts/

Meh

[thecollective]

Does he activate your almonds?

& my 5g

Eventually all the COVID dead people are going to rise out of the ground and go, SURPRISE! I TOLD YOU IT WAS A PLANDEMIC

all in a bid to intoxicate us all with a deadly vaccine

Sounds about as far fetched as Christianity's 'Jesus will return' mantra

[Yossarian]

Jesus did return thou.

[Toolish]

If the concern is about our democracy, then I'd be more worried about new ASIO et al powers than this public health issue. But hey.

Similar to all of the people worried about QR check-in to monitor movement, but then posting all over social media with locations on...

[Captain Nemo]

Staying in garage will minimise the risk of being hit.

Thats why I walk to golf these days…..