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    Quote Originally Posted by markTHEblake View Post
    It was only controversial because it was Patrick. He did follow the procedure according to the rules as I understand it.
    Rory did exactly the same thing on 18 in the same third round. They showed it right at the start of the 4th round Golf Channel coverage. The only difference seems to be that Rory didn't make much effort to find himself a better lie, while Patrick was very successful in obtaining a better lie.

    For mine, this is a problem that will occur many times when you have super-thick rough, a wet, soft course, and a local rule about embedded golf balls. Either remove the embedded ball in the rough rule, or cut the rough back.

    As for Patrick, what he clearly should have done is call the cameraman over, so he could get a ruling from the many viewers on TV before proceeding.
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    The embedded ball relief in the rough is no longer a local rule.

    It became a rule of golf in 2019, as part of USGA's 'Operation Participation Certificate'.
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    All the procedural BS aside, he pulled his ball out of the rough before anybody had a chance to even see how it was sitting bar himself. He isn't that dumb. The most obvious explanation is usually 100% on the money. These blokes don't even move their ball for path or sprinkler relief before getting advice on these straight forward situations. His quite junior playing partners were miles away. You blokes are kidding buying the spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamonds View Post
    he pulled his ball out of the rough before anybody had a chance to even see how it was sitting bar himself.....

    These blokes don't even move their ball for path or sprinkler relief before getting advice on these straight forward situations.
    Did you not see or have you chosen to ignore Rory?

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    For years after one of these "incidents" various players have come out and said they know who the cheats are.

    For years the Players Advisory Council and the PGATour have seemingly done nothing.

    Next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerryGroves View Post
    For years after one of these "incidents" various players have come out and said they know who the cheats are.

    For years the Players Advisory Council and the PGATour have seemingly done nothing.

    Next.
    Xander said nothing will come from it because the tour protects P Reed.

    I’m sure he’ll get a phone call over that comment though




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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamonds View Post
    All the procedural BS aside, he pulled his ball out of the rough before anybody had a chance to even see how it was sitting bar himself.
    An embedded ball isnt defined by how it appears to be sitting, so thats irrelevant. The ball must be picked up to identify embedded or not and he is entitled to do that without a referee. Rory did the same, do you accuse him of the same intention?
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    I'll say up front, I'm a fan of Rory and have never warmed to Reed, doubt I ever will.

    I saw the Reed incident and I believe that he contributed to the embedding of the ball, because physics suggests that it simply isn't possible for a ball to embed from a foot. Lifting your ball, relocating it, then asking for a ruling from the official is very smelly, in my opinion.

    I didn't see Rory's incident, but if his situation is the same as Reed's, then they should hang from the same tree.

    The PGA won't take any action on Reed, if there was action to take. He is a major draw card, can seriously play (embedded ball aside) and gets people talking about and watching golf, which is what the PGA want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Canuck View Post
    Xander said nothing will come from it because the tour protects P Reed.

    I’m sure he’ll get a phone call over that comment though
    Nothing came from Xander having a non-conforming driver in his bag either although you could argue that wasn’t a PGA Tour event.

    Still, why wouldn’t they all jump up and down about half a dozen blokes in the field being caught?

    As for the tour protecting Reed, the players are the Tour. They run it. If they want something done, something will be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    Nothing came from Xander having a non-conforming driver in his bag either although you could argue that wasn’t a PGA Tour event.

    Still, why wouldn’t they all jump up and down about half a dozen blokes in the field being caught?

    As for the tour protecting Reed, the players are the Tour. They run it. If they want something done, something will be done.
    Drivers can be tested to be conforming and then become non-conforming with use. There are probably hot drivers at every event.

    Cam Smith spoke out against Reed and the tour gave him a warning that he’d be fined if it happened again.

    Patty Boy is protected as the tour tries to keep their image squeaky clean.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    Did you not see or have you chosen to ignore Rory?
    Didn't see Rory but saw the tweet talking about it.I personally would give Rory the benefit as I haveseen him call a penalty on himself nobody else saw.Points in the bank. Reed has none with me as he hasobviously cheated before in front of the world (I could give him points coz I backed him at 40s to win the Masters, but irrelevent to his character).I "may" have given him the benefit if the ball was embedded and visible to others in the area, but it was in 6" rough and he is the only one in the universe who knows its true lie at that time. The fact he whipped it out so fast smells even before he is a known cheat. It was said by another here, him of all people should be as transparent as possible. He brought this on himself.

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    And even though he is a filthbag, I also backed him in the US Open last year coz he is a gun. He is great value, good enough to give you a shot as a punter and if he implodes like he did, you can turn on him with glee coz hesva ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamonds View Post
    Didn't see Rory but saw the tweet talking about it.I personally would give Rory the benefit as I haveseen him call a penalty on himself nobody else saw.Points in the bank. Reed has none with me as he hasobviously cheated before in front of the world (I could give him points coz I backed him at 40s to win the Masters, but irrelevent to his character).I "may" have given him the benefit if the ball was embedded and visible to others in the area, but it was in 6" rough and he is the only one in the universe who knows its true lie at that time. The fact he whipped it out so fast smells even before he is a known cheat. It was said by another here, him of all people should be as transparent as possible. He brought this on himself.
    The Tweet about Rory was from P Reed's burner / wife's account




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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Canuck View Post
    The Tweet about Rory was from P Reed's burner / wife's account
    It was also on Reeds official Twitter account. Justine must’ve had a couple of glasses too many and was sloppy when switching between the burner and the real one. She posted that same reply 15 times on the burner and once on the official.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerryGroves View Post
    For years after one of these "incidents" various players have come out and said they know who the cheats are.

    For years the Players Advisory Council and the PGATour have seemingly done nothing.

    Next.
    Mick,

    Just like their pathetic efforts to stamp out slow play, they know who the snails are and doing nothing about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pt73 View Post
    Mick,

    Just like their pathetic efforts to stamp out slow play, they know who the snails are and doing nothing about it.
    Except if there is a Chinese teenage amateur at the Masters, when they needed a draw attention away from Tiger replaying a shot from a few yards back from the original spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotty View Post
    Except if there is a Chinese teenage amateur at the Masters, when they needed a draw attention away from Tiger replaying a shot from a few yards back from the original spot.
    Yep, when was the last time a top ranked player got fined for slow play ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pt73 View Post
    Mick,

    Just like their pathetic efforts to stamp out slow play, they know who the snails are and doing nothing about it.
    Like this bloke

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1356339325567307776

    Edit: Wrong video of Faldo, will try and find the right one
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    Nothing came from Xander having a non-conforming driver in his bag either although you could argue that wasn’t a PGA Tour event. .
    Winner still gets 600 points towards the Courier Cup you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUSHY View Post
    Winner still gets 600 points towards the Courier Cup you know?
    Then it counts!

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    Been a while since I've watched Keegan Bradley play. His pre shot routine is as kooky as they come.

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    What year is it???

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    Great to see Speith back playing well, going to be a great Sunday finish

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    I thought that this would be a dull event without the idiot crowds, but the golf is really good. Perhaps this shows that if you let the athletes show their skills, you don't need gimmicks.

    I'm daring to dream, but I didn't like seeing the loose shots on 17 and 18, and the good play from Zander late.
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