Is it just me.

[slim]

Is is just me or are there other golf fans sick and tired of the pre shot routines
of some professional golfers.
Watching Meronk last nite taking a full swing as his pre shot routine
is really starting to piss me off.
Others such as Levy and Coetzee take the club back to waist high in their
pre shot routine...there are others...
These guys are supposed to be professional golfers.
Why do they need to do this.
They should be penalized for slow play.
Imagine if every player in a group of three was doing this.
Then the same in the next group....etc etc...
Imagine if professional tennis players when serving, allowed their ball
toss to bounce before catching the ball and then tossing it up again..
Imagine a penalty taker in soccer running in and having a practice kick
at an imaginary ball before walking back and then taking the penalty kick.
These players are boring the crap out of me.
Ffs...stand up to the ball, address the ball...
And then hit it....
Its not hard....

[Captain Nemo]

Love it, could watch it all day.

[AndyP]

Is it anything like Djokovic bouncing the ball 15 times or Nadal going through his OCD routine of wiping and picking. It is part of a set routine that gets them ready to play a shot, but some would be too long.

[slim]

Looks like Im outnumbered here...Ill just look forward to everyone doing it and laugh
my tits off when the crowds come back and the players get heckled off the course....

[backintheswing]

I watched Meronk last night and that's my new pre shot routine. Just played nine holes in 3 hours on my own so I wasn't slower than normal.

Shot 3 under too.

[Dotty]

Take a note of who advertises on the player's shirt, around the course and during the telecast. Then email those companies to say that will no longer buy their products. As in ...

'Dear Mr TaylorMade, I will not buy your clubs because Dustin Johnson is too slow around the greens.'

'Dear Mr Drummond, I will not buy from the stores that you advertised during the Master's telecast, because the pace of play was too slow.'

[AndyP]

Looks like Im outnumbered here...

Are you?

[Dazza]

I'm sick of the preshot routines of some at my local.
5 minutes of build up to spray it into the trees.
I can do that in under 30 seconds.

[backintheswing]

Looks like Im outnumbered here...Ill just look forward to everyone doing it and laugh
my tits off when the crowds come back and the players get heckled off the course....

You really think the players will get heckled off the course?

[Hatchman]

I have issue with the time it takes for a Pro Round of Golf now more so than any of their routines.
No doubt some of their routines are most likely adding to this problem.

[thecollective]

I feel the consensus from most is that golf is too slow but there is a counter argument...

If I said to you, you need to Par this hole to be playing the weekend, or if you bogey this hole you will lose $50k in prize money im certain you would take your time. Don't underestimate the amount of pressure professional golfers feel when they compete in tournaments where one missed putt can cost you a significant amount.

I cannot understand the club golfer (off 26 and paying to be there) taking so long to hit one shot. Golf is way more enjoyable at a faster carefree pace

As for tennis it's a completely different sport; you have an opponent returning the ball. The serve starts the point, from there it's a quick transition in between hits.

[Ron Burgundy]

I feel the consensus from most is that golf is too slow but there is a counter argument...If I said to you, you need to Par this hole and you will be playing the weekend, or if you bogey this hole you will lose $50k in prizemoney im sure you would take your time. Don't underestimate the amount of pressure professional golfers feel when they compete in tournaments where one missed putt can cost you a significant amount

Playing under pressure and within the allowable time is part of their job. If they can’t do it they shouldn’t be playing. Slow players are cheating the same as someone using a foot wedge.

[wazamac]

Also note that on the Sunday:

Crocker was 1 behind on the 18th. Pressure drive, hooked onto the roof of a cart then OB, Provisional, then 4th over the green into water, drop then in for snowman.
Meronk 400 yard drive then a wedge that went short of green into water.

Pressure killed both of them.

This also added to time.

[Hatchman]

I feel the consensus from most is that golf is too slow but there is a counter argument...

If I said to you, you need to Par this hole to be playing the weekend, or if you bogey this hole you will lose $50k in prize money im certain you would take your time. Don't underestimate the amount of pressure professional golfers feel when they compete in tournaments where one missed putt can cost you a significant amount.

I cannot understand the club golfer (off 26 and paying to be there) taking so long to hit one shot. Golf is way more enjoyable at a faster carefree pace

As for tennis it's a completely different sport; you have an opponent returning the ball. The serve starts the point, from there it's a quick transition in between hits.

The pressure to make cuts and win or loose prize money is no different now than it was years ago. The people and associations running tournaments and Pro Golf have allowed slow tedious play to creep into the game over time from failure to penalize slow players.

Playing under pressure and within the allowable time is part of their job. If they can’t do it they shouldn’t be playing. Slow players are cheating the same as someone using a foot wedge.

Very much this. If you can't do it in an allotted time less than the rubbish that's happening now, then Pro Golf is not for you.

[thecollective]

Playing under pressure and within the allowable time is part of their job. If they can’t do it they shouldn’t be playing. Slow players are cheating the same as someone using a foot wedge.

(on a personal level) I totally agree, problem is not enough sanction. From what I saw Faldo played a big role in slow play. Also watching the old Norman videos im surprised how long he took (yet criticised others for slow play).

Don't underestimate the tv coverage and it's influence on the pace of play. The camera needs to be ready for every shot (from the contenders).

[3Puttpete]

Don't underestimate the tv coverage and it's influence on the pace of play. The camera needs to be ready for every shot (from the contenders).

You what now?

[3Puttpete]

Looks like Im outnumbered here...Ill just look forward to everyone doing it and laugh
my tits off when the crowds come back and the players get heckled off the course....

You’re not outnumbered but you, like the rest of us, don’t matter.

The only way they’ll play quicker is if TV tells them the broadcast ends 4.5 hours after the last group tees off. Then you get to Dotty’s point where advertisers and sponsors will make it happen.

[slim]

I suppose the bottom line is that Palmer, Player, Nicklaus, Watson, Trevino, Ballesteros etc
never had a pre shot routine like Meronk where he swings the club to the top of his swing....
But then again, they were all A Grade professionals, not like the C Grade hackers going around on the
"South African Swing"
Actually, Ive never heard of 99% of these muppets....
Pressure doesnt cause a professional to have a pre shot routine like these wankers.
The question I ask is why is it necessary.
They are professional golfers.
Why is it necessary to swing your club back to waist high.
Why is it necessary to swing your club back to the top of your swing.
To set yourself for the shot.
Bullshit.
Its just a habit and should be stamped out.

[Webster]

Is is just me or are there other golf fans sick and tired of the pre shot routines
of some professional golfers.
Watching Meronk last nite taking a full swing as his pre shot routine
is really starting to piss me off.
Others such as Levy and Coetzee take the club back to waist high in their
pre shot routine...there are others...
These guys are supposed to be professional golfers.
Why do they need to do this.
They should be penalized for slow play.
Imagine if every player in a group of three was doing this.
Then the same in the next group....etc etc...
Imagine if professional tennis players when serving, allowed their ball
toss to bounce before catching the ball and then tossing it up again..
Imagine a penalty taker in soccer running in and having a practice kick
at an imaginary ball before walking back and then taking the penalty kick.
These players are boring the crap out of me.
Ffs...stand up to the ball, address the ball...
And then hit it....
Its not hard....

best alias ever....

[Flavzz]

The camera needs to be ready for every shot (from the contenders).

And Tiger

[Steve57]

best alias ever....

By a left handed golfer!

[wazamac]

I suppose the bottom line is that Palmer, Player, Nicklaus, Watson, Trevino, Ballesteros etc
never had a pre shot routine like Meronk where he swings the club to the top of his swing....
But then again, they were all A Grade professionals, not like the C Grade hackers going around on the
"South African Swing"
Actually, Ive never heard of 99% of these muppets....
Pressure doesnt cause a professional to have a pre shot routine like these wankers.
The question I ask is why is it necessary.
They are professional golfers.
Why is it necessary to swing your club back to waist high.
Why is it necessary to swing your club back to the top of your swing.
To set yourself for the shot.
Bullshit.
Its just a habit and should be stamped out.

Pretty sure majority agree pressure adds time. Not causes the pre shot routine.

[Ferrins]

Golf telecast works great at 6x

[pt73]

I suppose the bottom line is that Palmer, Player, Nicklaus, Watson, Trevino, Ballesteros etc
never had a pre shot routine like Meronk where he swings the club to the top of his swing....
But then again, they were all A Grade professionals, not like the C Grade hackers going around on the
"South African Swing"
Actually, Ive never heard of 99% of these muppets....
Pressure doesnt cause a professional to have a pre shot routine like these wankers.
The question I ask is why is it necessary.
They are professional golfers.
Why is it necessary to swing your club back to waist high.
Why is it necessary to swing your club back to the top of your swing.
To set yourself for the shot.
Bullshit.
Its just a habit and should be stamped out.

C Grade Hackers, you must be joking.

They must be unbelievable C graders when 38 of them (> 50% of those who made the cut) shot par or better for 72 holes.

The guy who came last shot +3 for 72 holes.