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15th July 2020 05:07 PM
#26
Member
Touring Pro (Aust PGA)
Originally Posted by
AndyP
The restriction is based on when the timesheet becomes available to me. Saturdays are only available the day before, but I don't really want to play Saturdays anyway, since it would set me back over $50.
Ah ok, I can view and book on it 14 days in advance for Saturdays. I'll probably play a bit of both, won't be there every weekend anyway.
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15th July 2020 06:49 PM
#27
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Nationwide Tour)
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
i know what you are saying but Thats nothing at all like I described, but rather the opposite. Reciprocation benefits are a different ketle of fish.
Some do it this way....
Comp Visitors - Outside FNQ |
$45.00 |
$25.00 |
Must be playing members of physical golf clubs. |
Comp Visitors - Social/Online Gold Clubs |
$65.00 |
$35.00 |
This includes 'Silver' memberships, online golf clubs, social golf clubs and Golf Club Members who never play at their 'Home Club'. Please support Local Golf Clubs! |
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15th July 2020 07:18 PM
#28
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
i know what you are saying but Thats nothing at all like I described, but rather the opposite. Reciprocation benefits are a different ketle of fish.
Who mentioned recips?
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15th July 2020 09:46 PM
#29
Site Owner
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
MAZA68
This includes 'Silver' memberships, online golf clubs, social golf clubs and Golf Club Members who never play at their 'Home Club'. Please support Local Golf Clubs!
I can also choose to support another club that isn't going to charge me extra because of the membership type I have.
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16th July 2020 07:42 AM
#30
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
3puttpete
Who mentioned recips?
Me mentioned both types, formal reciprocal agreements and the general reciprocation that most golf clubs offer visiting members.
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16th July 2020 09:27 AM
#31
Admin Team
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
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16th July 2020 10:24 AM
#32
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
PeteyD
You have this ass about. They discount greenfees for full members of other clubs ...
However you want to word it the result is the same. And how does a golf club know your membership category from your golflink number?
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16th July 2020 10:25 AM
#33
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
I did the sums on our PAYG membership option and found it very generous in comparison to a 7 or 5 Day Membership. Cost wise it is cheaper up to 60 rounds p.a. on 7 day and 45 rounds for 5 day.
A typical "cheap" Membership like Howlong ($150 pa plus Green and comp fees) is actually more expensive per round (40 rounds pa or more) than any of our Membership options. And only marginally cheaper than PAYG up to about 7 rounds pa. then falls behind steadily as rounds increase.
Last edited by Daves; 16th July 2020 at 10:34 AM.
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16th July 2020 11:34 AM
#34
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
Daves
I did the sums on our PAYG membership option and found it very generous in comparison to a 7 or 5 Day Membership. Cost wise it is cheaper up to 60 rounds p.a. on 7 day and 45 rounds for 5 day.A typical "cheap" Membership like Howlong ($150 pa plus Green and comp fees) is actually more expensive per round (40 rounds pa or more) than any of our Membership options. And only marginally cheaper than PAYG up to about 7 rounds pa. then falls behind steadily as rounds increase.
How much money does the club bring in if the Howlong member plays 3 rounds there against playing no rounds there?
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16th July 2020 11:35 AM
#35
Site Owner
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
3puttpete
However you want to word it the result is the same. And how does a golf club know your membership category from your golflink number?
They can tell from the first five numbers, what club it is, but they would have had to have noted which clubs they are "not applying the discount" to.
When I go to Gailes, they know that I am not a standard member from the last five digits, well, it is probably just the sixth digit, which is a 2. I doubt any other club could tell though.
Originally Posted by
Daves
I did the sums on our PAYG membership option and found it very generous in comparison to a 7 or 5 Day Membership. Cost wise it is cheaper up to 60 rounds p.a. on 7 day and 45 rounds for 5 day.
A typical "cheap" Membership like Howlong ($150 pa plus Green and comp fees) is actually more expensive per round (40 rounds pa or more) than any of our Membership options. And only marginally cheaper than PAYG up to about 7 rounds pa. then falls behind steadily as rounds increase.
Based on playing at the same course every week, which isn't something that I have ever really done, except when I was at Wolston Park.
I don't have a membership again at the moment. My Gailes renewal came up about 6 weeks ago, and I haven't decided whether to go back to SGA or stay with Gailes. They probably won't start again the membership year from when I pay either.
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16th July 2020 12:48 PM
#36
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
3puttpete
However you want to word it the result is the same. And how does a golf club know your membership category from your golflink number?
Yes the result is the same for the amount to pay. Howerver thats not the point, it is still a discount entitlement not a surcharge.Many clubs obviously dont care, but those that do will ask for the Membership card, which will show your membership category.
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16th July 2020 02:11 PM
#37
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Originally Posted by
3puttpete
How much money does the club bring in if the Howlong member plays 3 rounds there against playing no rounds there?
At the moment Visitors can't get a comp round on most days anyway, so the answer at present is Nil. What is the relevancy to my analysis? Under the fee structure I used the PAYG member would pay half the green fee of the Howlong member, if that answers your query.
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16th July 2020 02:20 PM
#38
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
Daves
I did the sums on our PAYG membership option and found it very generous in comparison to a 7 or 5 Day Membership. Cost wise it is cheaper up to 60 rounds p.a. on 7 day and 45 rounds for 5 day.
Seen a few clubs price PAYG at about the same, so very much suits the one day a week golfer. Many also categorize these as full members too ( voting right, hpnour boards etc)
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16th July 2020 04:18 PM
#39
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
Daves
At the moment Visitors can't get a comp round on most days anyway, so the answer at present is Nil. What is the relevancy to my analysis? Under the fee structure I used the PAYG member would pay half the green fee of the Howlong member, if that answers your query.
That makes sense but it’s a different situation. In this case there is a discount on offer to the golfer who already pays money to Reddy Bay rather than Howlong. I’m talking about giving the same discount to someone at Reddy Bay because they pay money to Carbrook but not the golfer who pays Howlong. That’s the part which seems silly to me.
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16th July 2020 04:40 PM
#40
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
Seen a few clubs price PAYG at about the same, so very much suits the one day a week golfer. Many also categorize these as full members too ( voting right, hpnour boards etc)
Neither is included in the Reddie Bay PAYG option.
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16th July 2020 06:12 PM
#41
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Nationwide Tour)
On my travels and playing at different courses, most have offered a reduced fee by being a member of another course, sometimes in a comp but not always. None have asked for the type of membership.
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16th July 2020 06:42 PM
#42
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
3puttpete
but not the golfer who pays Howlong. That’s the part which seems silly to me.
Seems you understand it, but just dont like it. Golf clubs in AU have a long tradition of welcoming visitors. Someone who lives in Brisbane, but is a member of Howlong isnt a genuine visitor, and clubs are quite rightly not giving concessions and thats reasonable.
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16th July 2020 07:15 PM
#43
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
Seems you understand it, but just dont like it. Golf clubs in AU have a long tradition of welcoming visitors. Someone who lives in Brisbane, but is a member of Howlong isnt a genuine visitor, and clubs are quite rightly not giving concessions and thats reasonable.
Reasonable? It’s old-fashioned pretentious wankery supported by old-fashioned pretentious wankers. Nothing more.
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17th July 2020 12:43 PM
#44
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
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17th July 2020 08:52 PM
#45
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
3puttpete
Nothing more.
Thats unconstitutional
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6th September 2020 08:58 AM
#46
Senior Member
Touring Pro (PGA)
So naturally at the Leon day, before even playing the bug was coming back (big time after the game). I decided to have a chat to the pro, and then the golf operations manager (who both know me) about me playing in some comps there with a handicap maintenance type membership from somewhere like Gailes. I explained what the membership was and that it was not as a playing member. And that I've been a member of the club twice one the last 10 years and still have flagged rounds from 2008, so that I wouldn't be playing that often. The pro had no issues but wasnt sure what I would be charged (I mentioned I'd be happy playing social fee plus comp fee). I then went to the operations manager to run it past him, going through all this with him. He also had no issues with me playing and said the fee would be the visitors plus comp which would be $37. I said I was only interested in open days, and only Sundays (only want to get out for a hit, don't care when). He said we would probably ask questions if I was playing 24 games a year; considering I couldn't manage 10 a year when a full playing member, should be know issues.
I'm going to go out and do the same thing at middle ridge GC, chat to both. I figure split my handful of games between both clubs is the way to not take advantage of either club.
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6th September 2020 03:46 PM
#47
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Nationwide Tour)
Both clubs will be winning, getting an extra green fee and a comp fee.
Don't see why a club/members would complain about that, unless you scope the prize pool all the time.
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6th September 2020 05:06 PM
#48
Senior Member
Touring Pro (PGA)
We won't have to worry about that!
Ping G10 Project X S
TM V-Steel 16.5* w Speeder 57s at 3 wood length
Ping G10 21* Hybrid Reg
Ping i3+ 4-W CS Lite S
Ping Tour 54* and 60* (ground) CS Lite S
SC Pro Platinum Mid Sur Counterbalanced
Ping Hoofer Vantage
NB 574 Greens (yes, no more Crocs)
Golflucky
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6th September 2020 09:53 PM
#49
Senior Member
Touring Pro (PGA)
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7th September 2020 11:18 AM
#50
Junior Member
Fairweather club-member
Depends on the cost of membership. 24 games @ $37 is $888. Is half a year of golf less than half a membership? If a full membership is $2k or more than probably.
Unless a club has a full book of members they should be offering options for people who can't play all the time anyway!
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