Stopping the flip and getting more shaft lean

[Matt 3 Jab]

So I've started to lose a lot of distance and I think the flip is getting worse

The ball should be going further with my swing speed and I'm losing it up in the air

Any drills / videos / good teachers for this???

Struggle street

[okitoki]

My flipping issues are mainly due to my leaning right on my back swing and either stay right or I end up casting and flipping my wrist.

Watched Top speed golf on YouTube and one of his iron drill video he mentioned some people mistakenly place too much weight on the front foot before the back swing which cause some people to sway right.
So he suggested on a drill to place some weight on the inside of the back foot on address which stop the back swing sway.

I've been using that during my range session and in my garage (3/4 back swing and half follow through)

I've been hitting my irons much more cleanly and actually have some ball compression instead of packing it. I could even hit my 5 iron today

[markTHEblake]

If you stop flipping you will it it gay right.
Flipping is the symptom not the problem.

Find out why you need to flip, and fix that.

[NewyMitch]

Matt I had a fitting with Brad McIntosh over at Golf Hub Central Coast a while back and he showed me that my flip was due to a big lateral slide. I think that fitting session ended up being more a lesson than a fitting in the end.

I've been falling back into old habits lately so I've gone back to the drills he gave me to try and rotate through the ball a lot more. This has helped to minimise the flip and get my ballstriking back on track. One thing to note, I needed to weaken my overly strong grip with the change to stop pulling everything left.

[3oneday]

If you stop flipping you will it it gay right.
Flipping is the symptom not the problem.

Find out why you need to flip, and fix that.

this is what I discovered too. The flip is the result of being stuck somewhere and having to compensate to correct it.

Try hitting hard fades at the range for a bucket and see if that helps.

[BUSHY]

So I've started to lose a lot of distance and I think the flip is getting worse

The ball should be going further with my swing speed and I'm losing it up in the air

Any drills / videos / good teachers for this???

Struggle street

What happened to 4:30 path?

[BUSHY]

Maybe time for some George Gankas??

[Lucasto23]

So I've started to lose a lot of distance and I think the flip is getting worse

The ball should be going further with my swing speed and I'm losing it up in the air

Any drills / videos / good teachers for this???

Struggle street

Maybe you’re getting old... all jokes aside what 3OD said is a good place to start as you have to hold that face open to hit the cut.

I would work on a rotation drill, ball teed up to start with just inside front foot big toe. Place your rear leg behind you and make sure your on your right toes. Start with slow half swings and feel you are releasing with your body and your chest gets more over the ball.

This will help you sequence your release better. Swing smooth or you will fall in your arse

[markTHEblake]

Maybe time for some George Gankas??

Love the G.

[Captain Nemo]

Maybe time for some George Gankas??

[Matt 3 Jab]

I actually got the chance to hit some range balls today.

Really focused on the wrist set in the backswing, and a proper release with some heavy shaft lean rotating closed.

Started to find a good spot. Will see how it all ends up Wednesday but the ball was coming out lower.

[Hard_Pan]

In my experience, I was flipping to stop the ball going too far right after swinging from the inside too much. Found this out after hitting shanks after forward pressing to deloft the club on the downswing. Really did not think I was coming from the inside too much until this happened.

[chappy1970]

I've just dropped by for the comments Matt.

Flipping, as well as OTT, are my most common swing faults.

[Bigbad]

https://youtu.be/EfcMXo23oU8

This will help. Sounds like you're just getting stuck in transition which leads to your hands trying to "catch up" in turn flipping at impact.

[Matt 3 Jab]

Cheers. Great video

That's what I was working on. Felt I had better compression and didn't lose too many right.

Will keep working on it.

[BUSHY]

Cheers. Great video

That's what I was working on. Felt I had better compression and didn't lose too many right.

Will keep working on it.

Have you seen the Steve Bann ‘Laws of Impact’ series on YT?

I’ve got this saved as it’s always a good refresher.


https://youtu.be/daizvuvZw1s

[Matt 3 Jab]

Well the drill and the forward shaft lean / rotating closed worked really well

13/14 fairways (only missed the 1st)

Only managed 9 greens however but feeling like the ball flight was lower especially off the tee

Will keep working at it

[NewyMitch]

Well the drill and the forward shaft lean / rotating closed worked really well13/14 fairways (only missed the 1st) Only managed 9 greens however but feeling like the ball flight was lower especially off the teeWill keep working at it

It's always nice when a drill or change helps. I'm hoping you missed the 1st to the right and not the left...

[Matt 3 Jab]

It's always nice when a drill or change helps.I'm hoping you missed the 1st to the right and not the left...

I missed it about 50 right

[NewyMitch]

I missed it about 50 right

That's much much better than 50m to the left

[Diamonds]

In my experience, I was flipping to stop the ball going too far right after swinging from the inside too much. Found this out after hitting shanks after forward pressing to deloft the club on the downswing. Really did not think I was coming from the inside too much until this happened.

Interesting discussion. I had a series of lessons under two Pros in the last 4 years. All were for fighting the flip. Based on video analysis I tried hitting punch cutsfor a while as an anti flip remedy. Big focus on hands forward at impact. Never got anywhere of note despite lots of practice. Finally got on trackman recently. I am steep and from theinside exclusively. 4-8 degrees inside. Worse as a session goes on. So it turns out my flip islikely trying to counteract the massive blocks I start hitting as the day goes on. I was not OTT or even close to neutral once. So now I am only concentrating on shallowing out and not worryingwith hands ahead/shaft lean so much. Has freed mymind of one factor anyway.

[Matt 3 Jab]

The biggest thing for me was the forward shaft lean and the rotation of the club closed. The two need to go hand in hand otherwise its block city

[okitoki]

The biggest thing for me was the forward shaft lean and the rotation of the club closed. The two need to go hand in hand otherwise its block city

thats pretty much where I am at the moment for the longer clubs. if timing is off, then it is just a beautiful straight ball flight ...... to the right

[BayBum]

I'm a goat humping flipper. If I can keep the club head outside of my hands, I don't struggle with it as much.

[davepuppies]

I struggle with this too.....

Come to much from the inside, i slide laterally then try to manipulate my hands through impact.

Sucks, as i hit both ways depending on how my hands behave.

Need to get some lessons and practice if i ever want to hot a fairway again!