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20th September 2019 01:14 PM
#126
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20th September 2019 04:54 PM
#127
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Originally Posted by
WBennett
I'm a Giants member, supporter, and will be at the game tomorrow.Crisso screwed up last week. The charge against Greene for the work on Bont should have been High contact to the face/eyes, Intentional and low impact. Under the MRP Matrix, that is 1 week.They went the gouging charge which could not be proven so he gets off.This week the charge was correct, although the contact was negligible. But that behaviour has no place in the game.Greene is a phenomenally talented footballer who needs to wake up to himself. His action may cost his team a spot in a GF, like Stevie J did in 2016.
Well said WB, a very silly boy!
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20th September 2019 07:33 PM
#128
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Originally Posted by
Grumpy8
Normally I would agree with you but am more than happy to make an exception for this grub .Plus you guys need to read the charge , as I understand it , he was charged with attacking the face of an opponent, last time I looked my nose is a part of my face , the replays prove it was deliberate, Brisbane confirmed he got his face , maybe an argument could be made that he should have got more .He was charged basically with eye gouging last week and that was deemed inconclusive so he got fined .
And based on all the above the sentence is a fine, The suspension is a joke
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20th September 2019 07:38 PM
#129
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Originally Posted by
WBennett
I'm a Giants member, supporter, and will be at the game tomorrow.Crisso screwed up last week. The charge against Greene for the work on Bont should have been High contact to the face/eyes, Intentional and low impact. Under the MRP Matrix, that is 1 week.They went the gouging charge which could not be proven so he gets off.This week the charge was correct, although the contact was negligible. But that behaviour has no place in the game.Greene is a phenomenally talented footballer who needs to wake up to himself. His action may cost his team a spot in a GF, like Stevie J did in 2016.
And still, there is no grounds that he should be suspended. Stupid does not equal suspended Stupid does equal expensive
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20th September 2019 08:26 PM
#130
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Originally Posted by
Toxic
And based on all the above the sentence is a fine, The suspension is a joke
No the fine was a joke and the suspension is fine
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20th September 2019 09:19 PM
#131
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Seems you're bending over backwards pretty hard to defend a grubby little flog, Toxic.
Not sure why.
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20th September 2019 09:51 PM
#132
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Originally Posted by
Grumpy8
No the fine was a joke and the suspension is fine
So you obviously have no idea, but feel free to judge and voice on opinion rather than fact
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20th September 2019 09:52 PM
#133
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Originally Posted by
LeftyHoges
Seems you're bending over backwards pretty hard to defend a grubby little flog, Toxic.Not sure why.
Tell me why he should be suspended under the OFFICIAL RULES
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20th September 2019 10:38 PM
#134
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Originally Posted by
Toxic
Tell me why he should be suspended under the OFFICIAL RULES
He was suspended. Shouldn't you be proving otherwise?
The incident was assessed as intentional conduct with low impact and high contact. It was then classified as a one-match sanction
Which aspect of the charge do you disagree with? The high contact? The impact? That it wasn't intentional?
Last edited by AndyP; 20th September 2019 at 10:41 PM.
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20th September 2019 10:41 PM
#135
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Originally Posted by
Toxic
Tell me why he should be suspended under the OFFICIAL RULES
Because he was charged with making unnecessary contact to the face of an opponent. The contact was high, intentional, and low impact. 1 week.
He ALSO should have been rubbed out the week before for his grubness on Bontempelli. They naffed that one up.
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20th September 2019 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by
Toxic
So you obviously have no idea, but feel free to judge and voice on opinion rather than fact
Grumpy's has been ticked off by the AFL, therefore his is actually fact, and yours is the opinion.
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20th September 2019 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by
LeftyHoges
Grumpy's has been ticked off by the AFL, therefore his is actually fact, and yours is the opinion.
The AFL also says Lachie Neale is a filthy liar.
MRO:
Toby Greene, GWS GIANTS, has been charged with making Unreasonable or Unnecessary Contact to the Eye Region of Lachie Neale, Brisbane Lions, during the second quarter of the Semi Final match between the Brisbane Lions and the GWS GIANTS, played at The Gabba on Saturday September 14.
In summary he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.
Tribunal:
- Neale says he can't recall feeling anything to his eye region. He says he grabbed his face afterwards as his nose was sore.
- Pane argues that little weight should be given to Neale's evidence.
- Pane describes Neale's evidence as "vague" and said it was focused on the aftermath of the incident.
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20th September 2019 11:10 PM
#138
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Originally Posted by
3puttpete
The AFL also says Lachie Neale is a filthy liar.
MRO:
Toby Greene, GWS GIANTS, has been charged with making Unreasonable or Unnecessary Contact to the Eye Region of Lachie Neale, Brisbane Lions, during the second quarter of the Semi Final match between the Brisbane Lions and the GWS GIANTS, played at The Gabba on Saturday September 14.
In summary he can accept a one-match sanction with an early plea.
Tribunal:
- Neale says he can't recall feeling anything to his eye region. He says he grabbed his face afterwards as his nose was sore.
- Pane argues that little weight should be given to Neale's evidence.
- Pane describes Neale's evidence as "vague" and said it was focused on the aftermath of the incident.
When was the last time a player told the truth that would lead to a fellow player missing a final?
Just asking for a friend...
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21st September 2019 05:32 AM
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Zac Merrett last week,
Intentional, high, low impact = a fine.
Toby Greene week 1 of finals,
Intentional, high, low impact = a fine.
The AFL set the precedent
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21st September 2019 06:18 AM
#140
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Originally Posted by
Toxic
Zac Merrett last week,
Intentional, high, low impact = a fine.
Toby Greene week 1 of finals,
Intentional, high, low impact = a fine.
The AFL set the precedent
Sure thing, because a small hair pull is exactly the same thing as being third man in to the tackle, checking to see where the umpire is then reaching your grubby little hands in to rake the face of a defenseless opponent.
It's the fine in week 1 that they cocked up Toxic, not the suspension in week 2. Little dickhead should have been suspended after the first incident. But due to similarly grubby lawyers he's somehow allowed to escape with a fine, and comes out and apologises, expressing how "remorseful he is" for his actions.
Oh, what's that, he does the same thing the next week? Sure, someone who does that should be given another fine, he's clearly learnt his lesson.
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21st September 2019 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by
LeftyHoges
Sure thing, because a small hair pull is exactly the same thing as being third man in to the tackle, checking to see where the umpire is then reaching your grubby little hands in to rake the face of a defenseless opponent.It's the fine in week 1 that they cocked up Toxic, not the suspension in week 2. Little dickhead should have been suspended after the first incident. But due to similarly grubby lawyers he's somehow allowed to escape with a fine, and comes out and apologises, expressing how "remorseful he is" for his actions.Oh, what's that, he does the same thing the next week? Sure, someone who does that should be given another fine, he's clearly learnt his lesson.
Past indiscretions have no impact on the sentence.
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21st September 2019 06:46 AM
#142
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Originally Posted by
Toxic
Past indiscretions have no impact on the sentence.
No you’re right, but they should be a warning that you need to change something in order to push ahead in your career.
He is obviously either an extremely slow learner or an arrogant little so and so who thinks he can get away with whatever he wants.
I tend to think it’s the latter, which is a pity as he can definitely play the game better than most when he is on.
He has let his club and team mates down to the point as WB suggested, that they are likely to miss a GF berth because of his actions.
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21st September 2019 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by
Toxic
Past indiscretions have no impact on the sentence.
So you believe that if he does the same thing EVERY week for the season the AFL / tribunal should just fine him every time?
So, we've clearly established you're a GWS fan then. That's the only logical conclusion here.
Originally Posted by
Steve57
No you’re right, but they should be a warning that you need to change something in order to push ahead in your career.
He is obviously either an extremely slow learner or an arrogant little so and so who thinks he can get away with whatever he wants.
I tend to think it’s the latter, which is a pity as he can definitely play the game better than most when he is on.
He has let his club and team mates down to the point as WB suggested, that they are likely to miss a GF berth because of his actions.
Exactly this.
Dumb, arrogant flog.
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21st September 2019 06:47 PM
#144
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21st September 2019 06:54 PM
#145
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Could have put the Moz on!
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21st September 2019 08:03 PM
#146
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Ugh, I'm going to be hearing about it all week from my GWS friends and workmates........
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21st September 2019 08:14 PM
#147
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Originally Posted by
AndyP
Ugh, I'm going to be hearing about it all week from my GWS friends and workmates........
And Spud!
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21st September 2019 08:24 PM
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21st September 2019 08:27 PM
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Think I will play golf next sat afternoon
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21st September 2019 09:55 PM
#150
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Toby Greene gets another chance.I don't give a toss if he is a dumb arse or not,but this crap goes on all the time,not just him.Tobys problem,he is stupid,all eyes are on him and he is sh1t at trying to play the tough man roll.He doesn't even know when a good time is to slip in a sneaky punch and when it's not.What do you think happens when they wrap up a player in a body tackle.
Unfortunately if he was at my club,I would be happy
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