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14th February 2019 01:13 PM
#51
Senior Member
Touring Pro (European Tour)
Originally Posted by
benno_r
So sounds like his dad has no clue about golf and ettiqutte, so it solidifies the point he can win a tourny with a numpty on the bag.
Sounds like the apple didn't fall far from the tree and that his dad is a pretty typical american.
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14th February 2019 01:13 PM
#52
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Originally Posted by
meh
Awesome, a playground retort. Is there not a pro shop thread you can go and contribute nothing to?
I could say the same about you.
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14th February 2019 01:14 PM
#53
Senior Member
Touring Pro (European Tour)
Originally Posted by
aussieashley
That caddy makes $200 on a good day. Kuch has given him plenty for carrying the bag and raking the odd bunker.
It wouldn’t even be a story if Kuch missed the cut, or finished 40th or something like that.
But he didn't finish 40th or miss the cut. He made over a million bucks.
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14th February 2019 01:17 PM
#54
Member
Touring Pro (Aust PGA)
Originally Posted by
meh
But he didn't finish 40th or miss the cut. He made over a million bucks.
Why give some random caddy who Kuch has probably never met $50k if they agreed on something else?
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14th February 2019 01:17 PM
#55
Senior Member
Major Winner
Why didn't the caddy agree to be paid 10% of the prize money before accepting the job?
You don't get me. I'm part of the Union.
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14th February 2019 01:18 PM
#56
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Originally Posted by
Dotty
Why didn't the caddy agree to be paid 10% of the prize money before accepting the job?
Cos Kuchar was being a dick!!
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14th February 2019 01:20 PM
#57
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
meh
Sounds like the apple didn't fall far from the tree and that his dad is a pretty typical american.
Not sure slandering an entire country proves any point?
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14th February 2019 01:21 PM
#58
Senior Member
Touring Pro (European Tour)
Originally Posted by
aussieashley
Why give some random caddy who Kuch has probably never met $50k if they agreed on something else?
Because the guy helped him win over a million. Interesting to see some people's character, or lack of it.
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14th February 2019 01:21 PM
#59
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
mrbluu
Cos Kuchar was being a dick!!
Denis Denuto should open an office in Mexico.
You don't get me. I'm part of the Union.
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14th February 2019 01:35 PM
#60
Member
Touring Pro (Aust PGA)
Originally Posted by
meh
Because the guy helped him win over a million. Interesting to see some people's character, or lack of it.
How much do you think Kuchar should have paid that caddy?
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14th February 2019 01:36 PM
#61
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
The caddie left a half eaten burrito in Kuch's new bag for f...ks sake.
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14th February 2019 01:38 PM
#62
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
meh
Because the guy helped him win over a million. Interesting to see some people's character, or lack of it.
If you get your house renovated, and you sell it for $500,000 more than that renovation costs, how much do you personally go back and give the plumber?
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14th February 2019 01:43 PM
#63
Senior Member
Touring Pro (European Tour)
Originally Posted by
aussieashley
How much do you think Kuchar should have paid that caddy?
Minimum $50K. If after the tournament he'd said to the caddy "We agreed on this but here's 50 grand as a thank you for helping me win" he looks like a good guy rather than an incredibly cheap tool.
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14th February 2019 01:44 PM
#64
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
How does anyone actually know what was agreed?
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14th February 2019 01:44 PM
#65
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Originally Posted by
benno_r
If you get your house renovated, and you sell it for $500,000 more than that renovation costs, how much do you personally go back and give the plumber?
10%
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14th February 2019 01:47 PM
#66
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
Yossarian
How does anyone actually know what was agreed?
“Ortiz said that Kuchar said at the start of the tournament that he would be paid $3,000 for the week, plus an unspecified percentage of his winnings.”
Golf.com
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14th February 2019 01:48 PM
#67
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
mrbluu
10%
But the plumber should pay the agent's and solicitor's fees, because plumbers make a fortune.
You don't get me. I'm part of the Union.
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14th February 2019 01:49 PM
#68
Member
Touring Pro (Aust PGA)
Originally Posted by
Yossarian
How does anyone actually know what was agreed?
We read it on the internet so it must be true “Ortiz, who goes by “El Tucan,” told Golf.com’s Michael Bamberger that as a local caddie he understands he was not going to make the same amount as Kuchar’s usual caddie and that he had agreed with Kuchar on a somewhat nebulous figure before the tournament: $3,000, plus an unspecified cut of his winnings. Eventually, Ortiz said, Kuchar’s camp offered him another $15,000 to bring his total to $20,000, a nice payday for a guy who told Bamberger he makes $200 on a good day during his usual caddie rounds, but still short of the $50,000 bonus Ortiz believes his help was worth.“
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14th February 2019 01:49 PM
#69
Senior Member
Touring Pro (European Tour)
Originally Posted by
benno_r
If you get your house renovated, and you sell it for $500,000 more than that renovation costs, how much do you personally go back and give the plumber?
Is that a commonly accepted practice? Funny, I've never heard of that. It's pretty common for a player to pay a caddy 10% if he wins.
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14th February 2019 01:50 PM
#70
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
meh
Is that a commonly accepted practice? Funny, I've never heard of that. It's pretty common for a player to pay a caddy 10% if he wins.
Only full time caddies. One off locals rarely, if ever, get that.
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14th February 2019 01:53 PM
#71
Senior Member
Touring Pro (European Tour)
Originally Posted by
3puttpete
Only full time caddies. One off locals rarely, if ever, get that.
When was the last time a one off local been the caddy when a player won a pga event?
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14th February 2019 01:58 PM
#72
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
meh
Is that a commonly accepted practice? Funny, I've never heard of that. It's pretty common for a player to pay a caddy 10% if he wins.
So using, and winning with a local caddy isn't a common thing either, so paying him extra is no more relevant than paying your plumber the same.
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14th February 2019 01:59 PM
#73
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
meh
When was the last time a one off local been the caddy when a player won a pga event?
Dunno. You’re the one talking about common practice.
This is from the competitor fact sheet for the Ladies Aus open on now.
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14th February 2019 02:02 PM
#74
Senior Member
Touring Pro (PGA)
Originally Posted by
Yossarian
How does anyone actually know what was agreed?
This. 3k plus an "unspecified" amount! Does that mean Kuchar said if we do ok I'll give you some more. It sounds to me that what the actual amount over the 3k would be was never said. After winning, Kuchar decided the amount was 2k. That's how it reads to me.
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14th February 2019 02:08 PM
#75
Senior Member
Major Winner
Originally Posted by
goughy
This. 3k plus an "unspecified" amount! Does that mean Kuchar said if we do ok I'll give you some more. It sounds to me that what the actual amount over the 3k would be was never said. After winning, Kuchar decided the amount was 2k. That's how it reads to me.
That seems to be exactly how it happened however caddie man may have assumed he was getting 10%
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