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    That's a Hopoate-level brain fade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minor_Threat View Post
    Agree it is too far from the ball to really assist, but it is so dumb and lazy, it almost seems blatant.
    yep, what he said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minor_Threat View Post
    Not sure where you strike a ball, but it shouldn't be where he rakes the sand..
    Yeah, but he's pulling a bit of a hill down from behind the ball then he is certainly improving his lie.
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    I would like to see more footage of it. My personal take is the camera angle is possibly misleading and it wasn't as close to the ball as it looked. And my impression of the limited footage shown is that it doesn't look like it was on the line of the swing, it seemed to me to be parallel to it i.e. to the far side. Unless there is clearer footage, I am inclined to think it was just a very lazy, stupid way to clear a loose impediment, You should never move the sand intentionally is a pretty basic concept, I think. I am even disinclined to do this during a practice round, in case I absentmindedly do it during a comp round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Yeah, but he's pulling a bit of a hill down from behind the ball then he is certainly improving his lie.
    A hill of loose impediments?

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    https://twitter.com/i/status/1090224712884633605

    Watch the video, he takes plenty of sand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1090224712884633605

    Watch the video, he takes plenty of sand.

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    Pure red herring argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Pure red herring argument.
    No it’s not. There’s a perception he was very close to the ball scooping sand.

    There’s also the other perception that he was away from the ball lazily scooping loose impediments.

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    is the sand behind the ball though, from the angle he is looking to setup, looks down the side.

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    Assuming the video is running at normal speed:
    To me, it looks like he is being careful with that first scoop. Why does he need to be careful if he is so far from the ball? Possible indicator that he is closer rather than further away.
    Is there a hint of shadow on the ball as he moves across to take the second scoop? Might just be a blur in the vision, but another indicator of closer rather than further away.
    He changes the angle of his club to take the second scoop. Why would he need to do that? Looks pretty considered for a supposedly lazy or careless action.
    After the action he places the club down with the face close to parallel to the line he scoops (open because he is playing a bunker style shot). Indicates that the scoop is taken from behind the ball.

    There is a *lot* of smoke around this kid and his relationship to the rules. I have heard 2 different stories of times that committees let slide reported infractions from players in Bendigo. (My dad plays at Neanger Park) The video looks like fire to me.
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    Here's an even better comparison. Before and after alteration. That's as close to 8" as your dick is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    There is a *lot* of smoke around this kid and his relationship to the rules. I have heard 2 different stories of times that committees let slide reported infractions from players in Bendigo. (My dad plays at Neanger Park) The video looks like fire to me.


    Ahhhhhhhh. Now I get it.

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    There’s no possible way anyone looking at the video can tell how close to the ball he is.

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    Stan on then kids. I'm sure Herbie loves you too.

    There are lots of things in the video that indicate how close he is to the ball. Has he taken to using jumbo sized wedges? If not, the ratio of head to ball suggests he is pretty close to the ball. The right hand side of the picture shows a slope leading up to the ball.

    There is clearly no evidence that will stop the love story.
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    Well I’m sold. I’m going with the Bendigo rumours and blokes watching replays rather than the fella standing over the ball with a club in his hand.

    Somebody should investigate the committees for condoning cheating. Twice.

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    He got penalised 2 shots...so somebody in the rules world thought he was improving his lie!
    He must be pretty dumb to do anything risky with a camera 12’ away!
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    Quote Originally Posted by petethepilot View Post
    He got penalised 2 shots...so somebody in the rules world thought he was improving his lie!
    He must be pretty dumb to do anything risky with a camera 12’ away!
    No doubt he broke a rule but it’s a bit of a leap to go from there to Lance Armstrong according to some on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    No doubt he broke a rule but it’s a bit of a leap to go from there to Lance Armstrong according to some on here.
    Nailed it.

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    If he was cheating, why be careful? Just gouge a trough behind the ball and hit it. I think it was just dumb. If there was no rule change regarding loose impediments, does anyone actually think he would have tried to improve his lie?

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    You're right. He's got no reason to lie or to minimise his actions at all. We should believe him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodent View Post
    If he was cheating, why be careful? Just gouge a trough behind the ball and hit it. I think it was just dumb. If there was no rule change regarding loose impediments, does anyone actually think he would have tried to improve his lie?
    Clearly a few do

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    Crucify him! Crucify him!

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    It’s a Bendigo thing!


 

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