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    Having invested in quite a large sum of money on golf lessons this year and quite a lot of time in practice (given I work 55 hours a week in a busy ED), I must say Ive been a little disappointed in the level of coaching in general.

    Like the thread about the Lakes golf course and course architecture, Im hoping a teaching pro will jump in and give us his perspective.

    I have received little nuggets of information from each coach and from my home course pro, who I have regular lessons with, I am learning to play golf rather than the golf swing.

    Having said that, Ive been left to my own devices to put the pieces together.

    Not one coach looked at my grip. I found out that I had a gap between my left thumb pad and the grip causing my left hand to move on the grip during the swing.

    No one checked any mobility restrictions I had and figure out how that may have affected my swing. For example, I tend to stop my body rotation too early in the backswing causing my arms to become disconnected from my body. Ive been told to put a glove under my right armpit or left armpit or both, make a bigger hip turn in the backswing and just plain dont swing that far back.

    Through a trainer, I found I had a big restriction in neck rotation. I could only turn my head around 45 deg. So Ive been working on this and doing some neck stretching and mobility exercises for last few weeks. I can already see a big difference in my backswing pivot and arms are staying connected more. Tempo has naturally become more even instead to rushing the transition as my arms get disconnected.

    I dont think golf coaches need to be physical therapists but I think they should do a rudimentary mobility screen before they start teaching the swing. Some anatomical movements in golf are close to end range for most people. These include hip internal rotation (especially the left hip for right handed golfers as we follow through), thoracic rotation, cervical rotation, and right shoulder external rotation (watch Ben Hogan during transition). These at least should be looked at.

    I think part of the reason that most coaches are tips based is because of the golfing public who dont see the value in long term lessons and just want a quick fix. Compare this to something like playing a musical instrument. If you took up playing the guitar, youd likely have weekly lessons until certain level has been attained and then still have regular catch up lessons afterwards. Why is golf any different?

    Sorry about the long rant but Id love to see the level of coaching stepping up a level in general.

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    I've never had lessons from a pro... Don't intend to either. Most of my family are low handicap golfers and all of them only concentrate on a few basic things so I sort of follow those couple things. Even pros have there swings changed a fair bit due to different coaches or injuries whatever. My swing is no where near perfect, but I can repeat it and work it to shape my shots. I know this advise doesn't help much but rather than worry about a bunch of things I'd say work on bigger flaws and just aim for concistency

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    Jono how have you got on with your coach? Would be interested to hear your progress.

    I've had a couple of lessons from Michael Sund at Yarra Bend; hcp has dropped and he's a good bloke too! I've heard good things about the other coaches down there as well.
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    Im seeing two coaches atm.

    1) club teaching pro for playing lessons followed by a supervised practice session. I do this about once every 4-8 weeks. Hes really helped me focus more on playing golf on the course rather than the golf swing, particularly choice of shots around the greens.

    2) Ray Hawkins at Precision golf. Hes got wealth of experience and has the tools as well (flightscope, my swing catalyst and pressure sensors). Hes helped me with technique and helped me develop a more consistent swing.

    GA is 7.0 atm but I feel like I can go lower. Im certainly enjoying playing more than I used to.

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    I just got an email from Gankas Golf. His new platform is close to being released and appears to be a monthly/annual subscription type service with the traditional tiers of Bronze, Silver, Gold.

    If you check out the link below it shows a community, an app for tracking your stats and the basic outline of the subscription tiers.

    Ive been waiting for this so keen to find out more.

    https://georgegankas.golf

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUSHY View Post
    I just got an email from Gankas Golf. His new platform is close to being released and appears to be a monthly/annual subscription type service with the traditional tiers of Bronze, Silver, Gold. If you check out the link below it shows a community, an app for tracking your stats and the basic outline of the subscription tiers. Ive been waiting for this so keen to find out more. https://georgegankas.golf
    I had a quick look. Seems like a DIY type deal rather than getting any online lessons from George.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    I had a quick look. Seems like a DIY type deal rather than getting any online lessons from George.
    He offers online lessons already and the link is at the bottom of the page, although he has a bit of a waiting list I think.

    Im keen to see how theyre priced, his lessons are $200USD.

    I guess from what Ive seen online and watching his videos if youre looking for a quick fix (which I know you arent) this isnt the way to do it. What he says makes a lot of sense to me and Ive used it to good effect.

    Some info below.

    https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussio...online-lessons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Im seeing two coaches atm.

    1) club teaching pro for playing lessons followed by a supervised practice session. I do this about once every 4-8 weeks. Hes really helped me focus more on playing golf on the course rather than the golf swing, particularly choice of shots around the greens.

    2) Ray Hawkins at Precision golf. Hes got wealth of experience and has the tools as well (flightscope, my swing catalyst and pressure sensors). Hes helped me with technique and helped me develop a more consistent swing.

    GA is 7.0 atm but I feel like I can go lower. Im certainly enjoying playing more than I used to.
    Jono, are your two coaches communicating with each other? Cant imagine anything worse than two coaches going in opposing directions.

    I have an acquaintance who is a pro, he gets frustrated from the other side, most people want a quick and easy fix and won't invest long term in the progress.

    Personally I prefer to work on my own thing with occasional input from a local pro. There are no local pros that I trust with my game. Have looked online at lessons but at the moment I think I know my next step, once that is done (probably 6 months away) I may invest online to work out next steps.

    That said the Gankas thing intrigues me, I steepen the shaft in the downswing and swing nearly the opposite of what he seems to prefer and would like a bit of that in my game.

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    I'm a 747 man myself but I do love to felt the elbow fly when I really need to nut one.


 

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