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    Default How many "chances" to members at your club get??

    Just curious how lenient/tyranical your committees are.

    We have...well a douchebag at our local club. I have personally witnessed his abuse twice and offered my support if the member on the recieving end wanted to report it. Of course nothing happened. I have been told first hand from around 5 other members of this guys abuse towards them, again nothing reported officially I don't think.

    Well last night he bailed me up while practicing on the 18th green. The club bought in a "only 3 golf balls" when using the course for practice. I was using 3 golf balls, not holding anyone up (there was literally 3 cars in the car park when I got there). Honestly, pretty pathetic. It was abusive, aggressive and I had to walk away because otherwise I would have taken it further. When the first words are yelled "F*&K off to the practice green"...yeh there will be issues.

    I reported it at the pro shop and have drafted the complaint. Time for this knobhead to go find another club to get kicked from.

    Anyway, I doubt the committee will do anything. We seem to have a "give them too many chances" philosophy where someone pretty much needs to be charged with assault before they move them on. Not saying this is good or bad...just how it is.

    What is other clubs philosophy on this?

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    Depends on what they do.

    A few cheats have been managed out, and one bloke with an anger issue was given a stern rebuke. He had a few months away from the game and came back without any incidents.

    Clubs don't need angry dickheads threatening violence on other members.

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    I played with a mate at one if my old clubs in a medley comp one Sunday. We were playing with a husband and wife. The husband was nice enough but his wife was a real issue. We couldn't stand here, we couldn't stand there. She spent the first 8 holes telling us where to stand on almost every shot. Annoying but no big deal. We came to our 9th hole. My mate hit a wild tee shot off the tee through a tree line onto the next fairway. His best line if play was to play up the neighbouring fairway and play across for his third, but he couldn't do that right away as it would have been unsafe with other players coming down that fairway, so he waited. It took a bit if time for it to be safe but he hit as soon as he could have. Once he'd hit his shot, the woman walked up to him and started abusing him about how slow he was and he was holding us up and doing this and that wrong. Then when on the green she proceeded to spit the dumby (she was absolutely chopping it) and just left mid round without even shaking hands or anything. We finished the round with her husband on his own (he was pretty embarrassed) but my mate was shocked and a bit shaken up by it actually and he was so annoyed about it (rightly so) that he wrote and email to the club. The made contact with me and my mate about the detail and what had happened within a day or two of the incident. I had a couple of follow up discussions about it with one of the board and she was officially warned in writing. All it took was an email from a visitor to the club to get action in this lady and the club handled it very well and swiftly.

    If I could make a suggestion, reference any specific sections if the clubs constitution that he has broken. If you build the case based on the rules if the club, they are less likely to try and wiggle out if it.

    Good luck. He definitely sounds like someone the club could do without.

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    Good idea Jazz. I had mentioned "I was forced to leave the grounds of the club due to another members actions" and also "unbecoming to a member" so directly quoting some areas of the code of conduct etc. Referencing them is a better idea.

    I think the way the club handled yours is spot on. Get the evidence, make a call, official warning...nip it in the bud.

    This guys attitude is known. I will have a chat to the director of golf and find out how he wants it worded OR if he knows the guy is seeking help for medication or something.

    If I had been a new member and witnessed this....I would be an exmember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slothman View Post
    Good idea Jazz. I had mentioned "I was forced to leave the grounds of the club due to another members actions" and also "unbecoming to a member" so directly quoting some areas of the code of conduct etc. Referencing them is a better idea.

    I think the way the club handled yours is spot on. Get the evidence, make a call, official warning...nip it in the bud.

    This guys attitude is known. I will have a chat to the director of golf and find out how he wants it worded OR if he knows the guy is seeking help for medication or something.

    If I had been a new member and witnessed this....I would be an exmember.
    Yep exactly mate. You can't have people behaving like that at the club. Like you say, new members won't hang around and prospective members could be put off from joining altogether.

    At the same club, we had another member who was aggressive and abusive towards staff. He didn't last long either.

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    Agree with what Jazz mentioned regarding the constitutional piece but also some corroborating evidence would be helpful.

    Too often when these things end up at a board/committee level, its a case of "he said/she said", unless you are clairvoyant its difficult to reach the right answer.

    These things are also time consuming and annoying to deal with and given the litigious nature of some punters, expulsion from the club needs to be watertight.

    When I first started golf (14-15yo) my mate and I won a foursomes semi final against a particularly narky member and his partner. On one hole I picked the ball up as it was sitting on the lip of the cup. The nark said he didn't give us the putt and took the hole. We told my mates elder brother about it and the matter was sorted in the car park to most members satisfaction. Sometimes the old methods work best, haha.

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    I had / was involved in an incident at beaconhills . Another member who was known for being obnoxious and a heavy drinker was mouthing off in the clubhouse insulting /bagging the Olinda golfers not realising I was there and a member of both . Eventually I got sick of it and told him off and told him to shut his mouth . To which he went into fight mode shaped up and wanted to fight me . Long story short , emailed club , he was brought before the committee , suspended and is now on a good behaviour notice for a year . This wasn’t his first offence but supposedly will be his last . Things I did notice was his brown nosing of board members ( he sponsors events and donates to the club )before the meeting to suspend him . Since his return he has been quiet but is back drinking , I predict another incident after his good behaviour bond is up .its my experience with these things over the years is it depends a lot on what position the club is in and if they feel they can afford to be throwing members out . Which is silly because they lose people, the quiet ones who don’t complain or explain they just move on .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy8 View Post
    I had / was involved in an incident at beaconhills . Another member who was known for being obnoxious and a heavy drinker was mouthing off in the clubhouse insulting /bagging the Olinda golfers not realising I was there and a member of both . Eventually I got sick of it and told him off and told him to shut his mouth . To which he went into fight mode shaped up and wanted to fight me . Long story short , emailed club , he was brought before the committee , suspended and is now on a good behaviour notice for a year . This wasn’t his first offence but supposedly will be his last . Things I did notice was his brown nosing of board members ( he sponsors events and donates to the club )before the meeting to suspend him . Since his return he has been quiet but is back drinking , I predict another incident after his good behaviour bond is up .its my experience with these things over the years is it depends a lot on what position the club is in and if they feel they can afford to be throwing members out . Which is silly because they lose people, the quiet ones who don’t complain or explain they just move on .
    Absolutely. You can bet that there would be members leaving because of people like that and not saying a word. Better to boot the bad member out than maybe losing more without knowing why.

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    That's nothing... I once played with a committee member who played his shot into the middle of a group ladies putting out and didn't even call 'fore'! Nothing ever happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Courty View Post
    That's nothing... I once played with a committee member who played his shot into the middle of a group ladies putting out and didn't even call 'fore'! Nothing ever happened.
    WFT are they doing putting in the kitchen and HTF did Bob hit it in there??

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    Couldnt/wouldn’t have been Bob





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    Not a chance, the only reason Bob would have hit a green was if he was chipping, and even then no one would have been sure!
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    Nice how a normal conversation degenerates into this.
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