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    Quote Originally Posted by benno_r View Post
    No it doesn't. You're making that assumption, not me.
    It’s the only point you’ve actually made. Having to hit fairways with anything less than driver is bad, penalising driver in the rough is bad.

    Scatter in some platitudes of strategy and options. It’s the Masterchef “balance” and “compliment” discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    It’s the only point you’ve actually made. Having to hit fairways with anything less than driver is bad, penalising driver in the rough is bad.

    Scatter in some platitudes of strategy and options. It’s the Masterchef “balance” and “compliment” discussion.
    Strawman. Evidence required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benno_r View Post
    Strawman. Evidence required.
    Another post saying nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    Another post saying nothing
    You claimed I said:
    1. unpunished spraying of driver being the be all and end all of golf course design.
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    Having to hit fairways with anything less than driver is bad.
    3. penalising driver in the rough is bad.

    Prove it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by benno_r View Post
    So no one took the option of driver, or woods. The best in the world didn't want to take that option. Why not?
    Not true. Webb Simpson hit a hybrid of some sort.

    The hole was also playing significantly down wind. A head wind may have had different choices made, like IJP who hit 3w on day 1.

    I thought the rough was a little overcooked, but it rewarded good ball striking tee to green, not 350m drivers. Greens didn't seem overly tricked up, and pins were in locations where birdie was achievable more often than not.

    There were a lot of bailout areas, many short left of short right for those not taking on the full heroic shots.

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    26 players managed to break par over 4 rounds at the French Open in June, 5 of them were European RC team members and only 1 was from the US team.
    The previous year, 29 players broke par and there were only 4 Euro team members in that number.
    Thomas Bjorn and the European brains trust asked for the course to be setup the way it was.
    Greens were slowed to favor the Europeans who generally face slower greens on a weekly basis than on the PGA Tour.
    Molinari and Fleetwood in particular have never putted the way that they did on the weekend on PGA Tour greens.
    The bottom line in all of this, is that the course setup is what killed the bomb and gouge game, not just the course design.
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    Chill out gents, FFS!

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    I think with all the discussion about the course design and set up, it proves to me even more that a factual discussion on can never he had. Basic things like width of fairways and height of rough or amount of bunkers are facts. Whether or not you think it's right, or penal or good design or strategic or whatever is nothing more than personal opinion. There you go, that's just my opinion.

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    So good. The Euros just do everything better.

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    haha, all this thoery nonsense, here's the real reason they lost, individual conflict.

    https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports...f5571487338ff2

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    USA lost.
    Europeans won.
    I'm happy.
    That's all that matters to me.
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    https://youtu.be/7-kxODwKATo

    Now that’s passion....
    Makes me proud to be part of the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Nemo View Post
    https://youtu.be/7-kxODwKAToNow that’s passion....Makes me proud to be part of the EU.
    Watched that one one last week. I had chills from start to finish. It’s absolutley perfect.Also, just came across this - a brief transcription of Ben Hogan’s Captain’s speech to the 1967 US Ryder Cup team. It’s pretty awesome...quintessential Hogan. He certainly didn’t suffer fools:https://www.golfdigest.com/story/this-ben-hogan-pep-talk-to-the-1967-us-ryder-cup-team-is-something-else

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