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5th June 2018 08:41 AM
#1
Senior Member
Touring Pro (PGA)
Jono's swing
I've started working with a coach and working on shortening/tightening my swing. Still long way to go ...
https://youtu.be/hC58K_6lTZM
https://youtu.be/6q01MeqqnS0
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5th June 2018 09:06 AM
#2
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Certainly shorter than I remember.
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5th June 2018 09:33 AM
#3
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Originally Posted by
3oneday
Certainly shorter than I remember.
What about the swing???
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5th June 2018 10:02 AM
#4
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Originally Posted by
mrbluu
What about the swing???
Hey pot ...
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5th June 2018 10:46 AM
#5
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Is it because of shoulder pain that you've shortened?
I did this last night in the shed, I had been trying a more rounded swing like Matt Kuchars but my lower back rejected it instead of my shoulder, old(er) age is starting to suck
My issue with a shortened swing is that I then end up with tennis elbow and have to stop, be interesting if you experience any of that.
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5th June 2018 01:28 PM
#6
Senior Member
Touring Pro (PGA)
Originally Posted by
3oneday
Is it because of shoulder pain that you've shortened?I did this last night in the shed, I had been trying a more rounded swing like Matt Kuchars but my lower back rejected it instead of my shoulder, old(er) age is starting to suck
My issue with a shortened swing is that I then end up with tennis elbow and have to stop, be interesting if you experience any of that.
I am shortening/flattening the swing to get some consistency. Hooking a 9 iron 30m isn't very fun! 😩 Shorter/flatter backswing means I can just rotate through the ball without having to drop my arms down first. It's actually quite easy on the back as I end up more on my left side and avoid the reverse C position. I can hit low fades for the first time in my life. 😎 Little bit of club head speed loss but as I get more comfortable with the movement I can be more aggressive and swing a bit faster through impact.
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5th June 2018 02:27 PM
#7
Junior Member
Fairweather club-member
What a nice and efficient swing!
You seem to generate good separation between the shoulders and the hips, even with the shorter backswing. You look solid at impact and look to be swinging within yourself.
Can see why you have fought the reverse-c. Your rotation of your core seems to be around a solid axis, with very little lateral movement which can result in the duck hook if you transition too fast at the top with your arms.
How have your changes impacted the touch side of the game (half swings, pitching etc) Is contact more solid now, or is the timing thrown out a little because of the shorter swing sequence?
Also has the shorter swing helped with consistency throughout the entire round? Do you generally play better during the early holes or do you find your rhythm and tempo gets better towards the later holes?
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5th June 2018 03:50 PM
#8
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Originally Posted by
PapaBravo
What a nice and efficient swing!You seem to generate good separation between the shoulders and the hips, even with the shorter backswing. You look solid at impact and look to be swinging within yourself.Can see why you have fought the reverse-c. Your rotation of your core seems to be around a solid axis, with very little lateral movement which can result in the duck hook if you transition too fast at the top with your arms.How have your changes impacted the touch side of the game (half swings, pitching etc) Is contact more solid now, or is the timing thrown out a little because of the shorter swing sequence? Also has the shorter swing helped with consistency throughout the entire round? Do you generally play better during the early holes or do you find your rhythm and tempo gets better towards the later holes?
Yeah, snap hooks are always in the back of my mind and sometimes the big block fades. Two way miss is not the best thing to have especially if there are no bail out sides or adjoining fairways. They usually come out more on the back nine when I'm tired but could happen any time. Tried the Milaska move which helped but still inconsistent.I'm still in the middle of making the swing changes so I'll be able to report back on the short game after a few more rounds.
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5th June 2018 03:51 PM
#9
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5th June 2018 04:15 PM
#10
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5th June 2018 04:17 PM
#11
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5th June 2018 04:40 PM
#12
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5th June 2018 07:04 PM
#13
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10th June 2018 06:02 PM
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22nd June 2018 01:11 PM
#15
Senior Member
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Pause drill.
Mainly trying to keep the club head outside the hands on the way back, slightly laid off feel at the top, then go.
I tend to bring the club in, then lift the arms and cross the line at the top and then come under and flip with the hands. Always prone to snap hooks and pushes out right.
https://youtu.be/Mos6oXPn5dc
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22nd June 2018 01:30 PM
#16
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Originally Posted by
Jono
Pause drill.
Mainly trying to keep the club head outside the hands on the way back, slightly laid off feel at the top, then go.
I tend to bring the club in, then lift the arms and cross the line at the top and then come under and flip with the hands. Always prone to snap hooks and pushes out right.
https://youtu.be/Mos6oXPn5dc
You look like Inbee Park
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22nd June 2018 03:09 PM
#17
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
Originally Posted by
Jono
Pause drill.
Mainly trying to keep the club head outside the hands on the way back, slightly laid off feel at the top, then go.
I tend to bring the club in, then lift the arms and cross the line at the top and then come under and flip with the hands. Always prone to snap hooks and pushes out right.
https://youtu.be/Mos6oXPn5dc
How does this go with the step through drill??
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22nd June 2018 07:08 PM
#18
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Originally Posted by
3puttpete
You look like Inbee Park
I would have preferred Hideki Matsuyama but she will do. 😉
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22nd June 2018 07:10 PM
#19
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Originally Posted by
mrbluu
How does this go with the step through drill??
Step through drill was more for transition and sequencing.This is for backswing position.
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22nd June 2018 07:15 PM
#20
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22nd June 2018 07:37 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by
Jono
Pause drill.
Mainly trying to keep the club head outside the hands on the way back, slightly laid off feel at the top, then go.
I tend to bring the club in, then lift the arms and cross the line at the top and then come under and flip with the hands. Always prone to snap hooks and pushes out right.
https://youtu.be/Mos6oXPn5dc
Exactly the same thing I think about, because I do the same as you described, ie. drag behind, lift, then drop and flip through impact.
It's a big change in feel...
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22nd June 2018 07:58 PM
#22
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The clubface is a bit more closed and your downswing is a lot steeper than i remember. You take it back closed and flat and then immediately transition to steep on the downswing...
is this intended ? or are you working on a drill ?
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23rd June 2018 01:47 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by
virge666
The clubface is a bit more closed and your downswing is a lot steeper than i remember. You take it back closed and flat and then immediately transition to steep on the downswing...is this intended ? or are you working on a drill ?
. I've always been shut at the top and steep coming down leading to high hands at impact and stall flip. Working with a coach now so see how we go. This drill is just something I did at the range to try to get into a better backswing position.
Last edited by Jono; 23rd June 2018 at 01:49 PM.
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23rd June 2018 01:48 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by
BrisVegas
Exactly the same thing I think about, because I do the same as you described, ie. drag behind, lift, then drop and flip through impact. It's a big change in feel...
Yeah, it sure is. If I don't pause during the backswing, i seem to revert to that old pattern.
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23rd June 2018 02:54 PM
#25
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Love seeing the work your putting in and the results will come down the track
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