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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarro View Post
    I knew Marsh would be a good selection
    Heíd want to keep it going. Maxwell scored 213 no the shield game today so the heat remains on. Good to see his replacement is in good nick when Marsh hurts his back or hammy again next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarro View Post
    I knew Marsh would be a good selection
    Yeah great selection. Not!
    Fortunately the catch he dropped only cost us 10 runs.
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    I'm a bit puzzled in trying to assess the play so far.

    When Stoneman and Vince were batting in the first innings the pitch looked quite benign, and as they say, chock full of runs for good players. The rest of the Poms didn't do much, but apart from Lyon our bowling was nothing special.

    Then we batted poorly, except for Smith and Marsh last evening, and then Smith and Cummins today. I still didn't see any demons in the wicket, and the new ball was the only real threat to the batsmen all day.

    So, does it mean the pitch was a bit more difficult than I think, the bowling of both attacks is better than I thought, or is Steve Smith the only genuine test class batsman in either team.

    Whatever the answers, Steve Smith was several classes above any of the rest. If I was the Poms I'd be tempted to do a Tonya Harding on him.

    The other thing I'll observe at this point is that it is about time Handscomb made some runs. With Maxy making a double, it will be hard to keep him out for too long, so if Marsh makes runs again Handscomb might be under the microscope. Or Maxwell may just have to wait until Marsh is unfit again.
    nothing to see here


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    The pitch is extremely hard to score on as evidenced by the low run rate both teams have put forth Jim. Further evidence is that this was Smith's slowest ever Test century for Australia out of many. He decided very early to shelve many attacking shots and grind it out.

    Smith is a class above any bat on the planet in Tests. The way he summed up the situation early and batted accordingly including upping the ante when the time was right showed what a great batsman he is, not to mention competitor.

    i would hope Handscomb is safe for some time. His last 6 Test scores in Australia are 105, 35*, 54, 110, 40* and 14. Despite a toughish run oversea's he averages over 50 in Test cricket and has been earmarked as a long term Test player.

    Maxwell should have been in the initial squad but Marsh's 50 was a very good one and Maxwell should have benefited enormously from that big double.

    We badly need stability in the selections. They have some room to move for Maxwell if need be after the first two tests due to the flexibility of Marsh and Bancroft.
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    Matt Renshaw averages 63 in Australia, and face plenty of balls in India. That didn't do him much good. So who knows how safe Handscomb is with the selectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyP View Post
    Matt Renshaw averages 63 in Australia, and face plenty of balls in India. That didn't do him much good. So who knows how safe Handscomb is with the selectors.
    And Renshaw would have been perfect on this pitch, hold up one end whilst Warner and Smith went about their business.
    Even Khawaja would have been better with Renshaw in the team.
    It is the selectors that need to give themselves an uppercut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyP View Post
    Matt Renshaw averages 63 in Australia, and face plenty of balls in India. That didn't do him much good. So who knows how safe Handscomb is with the selectors.
    True. I think Handscomb is held in higher regard by them tho. There were reports very early on in the season that Renshaw was playing for his spot which was bizarre really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve57 View Post
    And Renshaw would have been perfect on this pitch, hold up one end whilst Warner and Smith went about their business.
    Even Khawaja would have been better with Renshaw in the team.
    It is the selectors that need to give themselves an uppercut.
    His style and patience would have been handy that's for sure.
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    To me Bancroft was thrown to the wolves , picked to open at the Gabba , faced the first ball and seemed to be left on strike, warner should have taken most of the strike and protected him a bit until he settled down . Renshaw should have got the first test anyway

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    Lol wot. Left on strike???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy8 View Post
    To me Bancroft was thrown to the wolves , picked to open at the Gabba , faced the first ball and seemed to be left on strike, warner should have taken most of the strike and protected him a bit until he settled down . Renshaw should have got the first test anyway
    Bancroft asked to face the first ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    Bancroft asked to face the first ball.
    Yeah that's ok but then get off strike and leave it to warner , he is the senior partner , best way to settle your nerves is to watch from the other end . Even blind Freddie could see he was nervous and would be jumpy .Second innings he is doing fine cause he has now settled , all I am saying is they could have done it better in the first innings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    Lol wot. Left on strike???
    How many quick singles did they take to get warner on strike ? Did warner take any singles off the last ball so he faced next over ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy8 View Post
    Yeah that's ok but then get off strike and leave it to warner , he is the senior partner , best way to settle your nerves is to watch from the other end . Even blind Freddie could see he was nervous and would be jumpy .Second innings he is doing fine cause he has now settled , all I am saying is they could have done it better in the first innings
    Iím happy to assume Bancroft knows the best way to settle his nerves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy8 View Post
    How many quick singles did they take to get warner on strike ? Did warner take any singles off the last ball so he faced next over ?
    This is your nuffie argument not mine. How many did they miss? Is it simply a matter of wanting a quick single and therefore attaining one?Each ball on its merits maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy8 View Post
    Yeah that's ok but then get off strike and leave it to warner , he is the senior partner , best way to settle your nerves is to watch from the other end . Even blind Freddie could see he was nervous and would be jumpy .Second innings he is doing fine cause he has now settled , all I am saying is they could have done it better in the first innings
    Looking the goods now. He looks like a potential long term prospect that's for sure. We can never have too many decent bats given recent years, and now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    Iím happy to assume Bancroft knows the best way to settle his nerves.
    Didn't seem like it to me and it didn't seem like anyone else was trying to help , but it has all worked out now it seems

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNuclearOne View Post
    Looking the goods now. He looks like a potential long term prospect that's for sure. We can never have too many decent bats given recent years, and now.
    I totally agree ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy8 View Post
    Didn't seem like it to me and it didn't seem like anyone else was trying to help , but it has all worked out now it seems
    Youíre really arguing you know Bancroftís state of mind better than he does?

    Thatís a whole new level of wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    Youíre really arguing you know Bancroftís state of mind better than he does?Thatís a whole new level of wow.
    No I am not , I am arguing appeances , it seemed to me he was very nervous and all the commentators said the same , maybe he wasn't or told warner he was fine , what I am saying is it seemed he was nervous and jumpy and that's to be expected and that others could have done more to help him . The shot he played to get out he didn't need to push at that and it was probably nerves that caused him to play at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy8 View Post
    No I am not , I am arguing appeances , it seemed to me he was very nervous and all the commentators said the same , maybe he wasn't or told warner he was fine , what I am saying is it seemed he was nervous and jumpy and that's to be expected and that others could have done more to help him . The shot he played to get out he didn't need to push at that and it was probably nerves that caused him to play at it
    Yeah ok then. Running him out would have helped. Good call

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    Sounds like a media blowup over nothing.

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    Gee if Bancroft looks nervous, what does that make Smith?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    Yeah ok then. Running him out would have helped. Good call
    Bob Simpson and Bill Lawry had pretty good careers , running quick singles and getting off strike was a big part of it . It was also a big emphasis of simpsons coaching also .


 

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