2017 US Open - Erin Hills

[Captain Nemo]

You tell em Rory, bunch of ****ing whingers....

It's the US Open, not the club champs ffs.

[Jazz18]

You only got to step on your 3i a little and you're there pal!

I wish I could hit it that far!!!!

[SundayHack]

I saw somewhere yesterday that on average these fairways are 50% wider than those that were at Oakmont last year. The fescue is only going to be a problem for those that don't deserve to win.

[thecollective]

I think the point that Na is trying to make is the unplayability of the lie within the fescue - long, penal rough for a wide shot = fair game but at least let me be able to get some club on it and hack it out onto the fairway without taking 4 swings at it

[Captain Nemo]

I think the point that Na is trying to make is the unplayability of the lie within the fescue - long, penal rough for a wide shot = fair game but at least let me be able to get some club on it and hack it out onto the fairway without taking 4 swings at it

Yeh sure, just don't hit it there...

[3oneday]

Na

[wazamac]

Hit the friggin thing straight. Simples!

[benno_r]

Yeh sure, just don't hit it there...

Hit the friggin thing straight. Simples!

I don't think it is that simple.

The leader in fairway hit percentage this year is Steve Stricker with 72.85%

The worst is Andrew Loupe with 42.25% Assuming average is mid point = 57.55% of all tee shots will land in the fairway. Let's even assume only 15% of those misses are in cack(fairways are wider, and rest land first cut), we will see 8.6% of all tee balls in the deep cack.

For the first 2 rounds, 14 holes aren't par 3's, and there are 196 competitors, we will see 5488 tee shots. Statistically that is 472 balls. In unplayable rough. That will potentially need reloads (not including second shots, par 3 misses etc.).

Sounds great.

[Captain Nemo]

Im looking forward to this.

[LoveGolf2012]

Stenson for me,3 wood bombing machine,fairways all day long!

[benno_r]

Im looking forward to this.

Don't get me wrong, I am too. From what I have seen looks like the best US Open venue I have seen. Now some of the fescue is getting trimmed from unplayable to brutal, it's getting even better.

[Captain Nemo]

Be just like me on whatever that course was called at riverside oaks....

[wazamac]

From what I can remember, Royal Adelaide was long a month or so before the ladies Open.

It got cut back before they started play.

[3Puttpete]

I don't think it is that simple.

The leader in fairway hit percentage this year is Steve Stricker with 72.85%

The worst is Andrew Loupe with 42.25% Assuming average is mid point = 57.55% of all tee shots will land in the fairway. Let's even assume only 15% of those misses are in cack(fairways are wider, and rest land first cut), we will see 8.6% of all tee balls in the deep cack.

For the first 2 rounds, 14 holes aren't par 3's, and there are 196 competitors, we will see 5488 tee shots. Statistically that is 472 balls. In unplayable rough. That will potentially need reloads (not including second shots, par 3 misses etc.).

Sounds great.

What's the fairway hit % with 5 iron?

The longest shot isn't always the best shot

[benno_r]

What's the fairway hit % with 5 iron?

The longest shot isn't always the best shot

I'd assume that logic holds for any pga event though.

[blurry]

What's the fairway hit % with 5 iron?

The longest shot isn't always the best shot

But this is the longest course ever to host a U.S open so 5 iron doesn't reach the fairway

[Jazz18]

Be just like me on whatever that course was called at riverside oaks....

Yep, the rough at ole Bungool is brutal!

[petethepilot]

So, how many balls will Rory lose?......2?

[Captain Nemo]

So, how many balls will Rory lose?......2?

Ask Grumpy...

[Dotty]

Yep, the rough at ole Bungool is brutal!

Certainly ripped me a new Bungol.

[Jazz18]

Certainly ripped me a new Bungol.

Hahahahaha!

[3Puttpete]

I'd assume that logic holds for any pga event though.

No doubt but if the main punishment for missing fairways is a less favourable angle for your 2nd, you take your chances with driver-short iron.

Either way, AFAIK they're all playing the same course so the bloke who plays the best golf will win.

[3Puttpete]

[benno_r]

No doubt but if the main punishment for missing fairways is a less favourable angle for your 2nd, you take your chances with driver-short iron.

Either way, AFAIK they're all playing the same course so the bloke who plays the best golf will win.

Don't disagree with that.

But if the rough is that horrible the risk far outweighs the rewards, will get to watch them play a 7km track with hybrids and long irons, which I worry is a bit boring.

[3Puttpete]

Don't disagree with that.

But if the rough is that horrible the risk far outweighs the rewards, will get to watch them play a 7km track with hybrids and long irons, which I worry is a bit boring.

Birdies or triple bogeys is better than a par fest