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    Quote Originally Posted by Coopers Country View Post
    This is the biggest effect of 20/20 cricket ,flat wickets and the ball not moving IMO
    India currently ranked no 1 test team ( or recently was) they play even more 20/20 on flatter pitches that move less. That does not seem to be hurting them.
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    TNO, that's a really interesting insight from Heals given Lee and McGrath were teammates. I'm not discounting it. That said, Lee's deliveries appeared to skid whereas McGrath's deliveries appeared to bounce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrisWesty View Post
    TNO, that's a really interesting insight from Heals given Lee and McGrath were teammates. I'm not discounting it. That said, Lee's deliveries appeared to skid whereas McGrath's deliveries appeared to bounce.
    Sorry mate, Lee wasn't in the lot he was talking about. Lee was quicker for sure. His point was that McGrath was quicker than some guys that were often reading faster on the radar. From memory Fleming was reading consistently faster, maybe Reiffel too. Can't remember if Gillespie was included at the time, possibly.

    McGrath wasn't as slow as he read on the radar vs others in reality. There's a bit on it below -

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/thestand...ry/659331.html
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    If you're interested in what Mr McGrath himself thinks: http://www.cricket.com.au/news/glenn...iew/2016-11-13

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    Quote Originally Posted by markTHEblake View Post
    India currently ranked no 1 test team ( or recently was) they play even more 20/20 on flatter pitches that move less. That does not seem to be hurting them.
    Did you miss the first bit about technique ? India's batsman can still play a ball that moves , probably a combination of a lot of swing/seam bowlers and spinners

    Australia was also ranked no 1 test team as recently as Sri Lanka

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    It's a bit of a myth that McGrath bowled in the high 120's on the radar for most of his career.

    McGrath was a 140+ bowler when he first played test cricket, and he slowed with age. He was never express pace, but he was not some medium fast trundler

    Yes, when he reached 35 he spent more time in the 120's than 130's, but he was 35.
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    Very impressed by de Kock. Looks the goods with the bat and no over the top celebrations at the ton, more of a mild acknowledgement with the mind obviously on keeping on going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNuclearOne View Post
    Very impressed by de Kock. Looks the goods with the bat and no over the top celebrations at the ton, more of a mild acknowledgement with the mind obviously on keeping on going.
    TNO can you please comment on all the SA batsmen, one minute after your above post de Kock is out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve57 View Post
    TNO can you please comment on all the SA batsmen, one minute after your above post de Kock is out!
    God yes!!! Bavuma has been impregnable so far and how good did Philander bat last time out????? They could bat all day and are certain to form a big partnership!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNuclearOne View Post
    God yes!!! Bavuma has been impregnable so far and how good did Philander bat last time out????? They could bat all day and are certain to form a big partnership!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve57 View Post
    TNO can you please comment on all the SA batsmen, one minute after your above post de Kock is out!
    Well i pumped the South African's but forgot to get in before we batted LOLOL.

    S.A. immediately getting a touch of swing when we were getting very very little. Easy to see Abbot's seam work thru the air is so much better than what we were putting forth.
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    And Burns gone for a duck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNuclearOne View Post
    Very impressed by de Kock. Looks the goods with the bat and no over the top celebrations at the ton, more of a mild acknowledgement with the mind obviously on keeping on going.
    Maybe he's just boring?
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    3 day test, subject to weather!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve57 View Post
    And Burns gone for a duck!
    That's not possible. He's the saviour we've all been waiting for, just have a look back through this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryLong View Post
    Maybe he's just boring?
    Bwahahahaha!! It was funny, in his only other ton he got to 129n.o and prior to this one today he'd had 4 dismissals between 50 and 100 in a row. He really did have the look of concentration and stoicism nek minnut BOOM!
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    As long as the SAffers keep missing the stumps, we can take all the singles we like.

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    Well we ended up ok , good to see them knuckle down with the bat against some bloody good bowling
    Hazelwood bowled very well good performance so far this series he is impressing more and more
    Still gonna need a lot of luck to make a game of it though , but there were at least some signs today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coopers Country View Post
    Well we ended up ok , good to see them knuckle down with the bat against some bloody good bowling
    Hazelwood bowled very well good performance so far this series he is impressing more and more
    Still gonna need a lot of luck to make a game of it though , but there were at least some signs today
    Much more patience was shown with the bat and once they finally got started with the ball they rolled on. We need big partnerships and some big hundreds to save face vs a capitulation and losing wickets in clusters. They have to be prepared to bat out tough periods for not may runs. Rogers was excellent at this with his tight compact game and matue temperament.

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    Meany does nothing for me , wont swing the ball with that action and wasn,t moving off the seam either , another plodder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coopers Country View Post
    Meany does nothing for me , wont swing the ball with that action and wasn,t moving off the seam either , another plodder
    He swings it a tad some days from what but not a real hooper. Long way from the stumps in release too. Hopefully Pattinson is back soon with his pacy outswinger. It makes me sad how bad a run Cummins has had, swings the ball away at great pace. Fingers crossed for the longer term. Starc naked hasn't swung it as much in this game as he usually does in favorable conditions.
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    Just out of interest, apart from Warner, when did an Aussie score a "big hundred". Probably Smith last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3oneday View Post
    Just out of interest, apart from Warner, when did an Aussie score a "big hundred". Probably Smith last year?
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    Here's the full list from the last two years:

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...g;view=innings

    If I really had my nerd on I would look at how that compares to previous periods, but only 7 tons in 2016 seems a little bit light on.
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