This is why I hate the police

[990B Luva]

Last weekend i was leaving work, when one of the guys from there did a burnout in the carpark (he has a VS commonwhore) the police saw smoke, ans his car aswell as mine nearby, they then proceeded to chase us (we were doing 65kmh in a 70 zone) and impound our cars, because of this i have had to have my fingerprints taken, pay $45 to get my car out of the impound lot, and i also have to go to court on the 14th of February, thankfully for me i have witnesses backing me up, but the police were adamant that i was doing burnouts in my poor excuse for a car.... what makes this funnier is they claim to have seen smoke coming from the back of my car... its front wheel drive so the only smoke coming from the back of it could be from the exhaust pipe..... but anyway if i am found guilty i have a permanent criminal record, my fingerprints on file and 2 points on my licence to last me for 2.5 years

[andylo]

Like you need a reason to HATE them (QLD Police)

Can you tell me again what kind of car you are driving again?

[Keza_G]

Bretto,

You are a young'n therefore deemed to be a trouble maker until you reach 30ish... make sure that your witness is reliable and can back you up...

Cheers

Keza

[connico]

just sue them...

where you even in your car at the time of the event?

[990B Luva]

Keri, my witness lives next door and didnt actually tell me first, they told someone else from work

Andylo, its a 1985 Mazda 323..... completely stock

connico, yes i was in my car at the time

[andylo]

Put it simple, can the guy in the garage your dad always use and write a report to prove that he has tested the car and there's no way the car can do burn out due to lack of horse power!

By the way, FWD can do burn out! If you want to learn I can teach you.

[990B Luva]

the guy across road from me is a mechanic and i will get him to do that for me

[andylo]

And remeber that on the court, let the freaking cop say "I saw his car doing burn out" before you hand out the professional report! Don't show all your cards straight away. Just lure him to say more wrong thing before you hand out all your evidence, on paper!

Then at the end you can argue that he's making it up or the stupid cop making a unprofessional judgement WHICH cost you time and money which is unecessary! So you can have your $40-lish dollars and the petrol $$ back... even your paid of the court date!

[Jarro]

no sympathy for you silly young punks that wanna do burn-outs all the time

.. oh sorry, you said you were innocent

[andylo]

Many many time I see QLD police officer screw up ppl like this. They just make up things they don't see. They do it very often to younger ppl and uni student. I am sure there're young punks are not worth the sympathy but how about those really are innocent?!

I think Bretto need all the supports he need so if anyone can shed a light please give him some (useful) opinions.

[990B Luva]

thanks Andylo, yea, Jarro, my car is not capable of doing what the officers who impounded my car claim to have seen it doing, they claim to have seen smoke coming from the rear of my car, it is a front wheel drive so any smoke coming from the rear of my car is purely exhaust smoke, which i have not had coming from my car, i also have witnesses who saw the entire incident, including the police doing burnouts in a pathetic attepmt to catch me and the guy who actually did the burnout

[Courty]

Yeah, @#$%'s! They gave me 2 (not 1, 2!) speeding tickets last week.

[Trung]

oooouch.... I got my last one a long time ago....

[drunken]

oooouch.... I got my last one a long time ago....

Same here...it's handy when you know the Regional Highway Patrol Commander...and have BBQ's with most of the Highway Patrol officers.The only problem is that is does lead to being pulled over regularly for no reason, they seem to think thats really funny

[Fishman Dan]

Better safe than sorry i say. Cop it on the chin and get over it. The more hoons off the road the safer we all are. What kind of car are you driving anyway (you neglected to mention).

But you said they 'chased' you... you didn't pull over as soon as they stuck on the siren?

Good luck for the court case though, if you're innocent and your witnesses are genuine, then it should all come out in the wash.

Did you grass on the actual perp?

[markTHEblake]

it is a front wheel drive so any smoke coming from the rear of my car is purely exhaust smoke, which i have not had coming from my car,

So what your saying is that you are driving an unroadworthy car?

[connico]

"which i have not had coming from my car" which means his car is not emitting any unnecessary exhaust...if im reading it right.

Regardless a 323 FWD...can do a burnout, just not from the rear tyres... and Andy such a hoon lol

[Fishman Dan]

By the way, you might want to change your signature. The cops might not believe the story of someone who has the slogan "You can't **** on what you can't catch" as a motto

[BrisVegas]

the only problem i see is if you didn't stop immediately when directed by the police. You mentioned that they "chased" you. This implies that you didn't pull over when they put the sirens and lights on.... something that that get a bit narky about.

I delivered pizzas for 2-3 years when I was 19-21 in my beatup old Escort and copped plenty of police attention. My advice to you is to be polite, succinct and if you do have to defend yourself in court, do it in a professional, factual manner. Being a smart-ar$e (and I'm not presuming you would be) will not get you anywhere. Maturity, facts and witnesses will.

[Matt 3 Jab]

im at uni doing policing, here in nsw, i guess its sort of the same in QLD, any officer can impound a car if its suspected to have been involved in burnouts, street racing etc, their reasonable suspicion, which is the power they need, can be in the form of seeing the person do it, bald or warm tyres that indicate a burnout e.g uneven wear, or a report that is then backed up by eveidence.
As the officers saw your friend do it, and the tyers etc would back the claim he did burnouts aswell, they can impound the car, as or you 990B, if the police pulled you over, and didnt check the car for signs of being involved in burnouts, and gave you no real eveidence why they impounding it, then i suggest you have a good person to represent you on this, check the police act 1900 and traffic offence act (might be different up there).
i hate people doing burnouts, but i hate police who dont know the law more, because if i have only done 1 year of uni and i can basicly get the idea, then officers on the street should know better than me

[Matt 3 Jab]

Its the road transport (safety and traffic mamagment) act 1999, should be nation wide but unsure, am looking up the act now for the details on the crime and legislation.

[Matt 3 Jab]

in a quick search i could only find the A.C.T's Road act, but it will spell it out a bit and im sure it will be very similar to QLD's act, if this one is not national, which im sure it isnt.
5B Burnouts and other prohibited conduct

(1) In this section:

burnout means--

(a) in relation to a motor vehicle other than a motorbike--operate the vehicle in a way that causes the vehicle to undergo sustained loss of traction by 1 or more of the driving wheels; or

(b) in relation to a motorbike--operate the motorbike in a way that causes the motorbike to undergo sustained loss of traction by the driving wheel.

other prohibited conduct means conduct that--

(a) is associated with the operation of a motor vehicle for speed competitions or other activities prescribed by regulation; and

(b) is prescribed by regulation for subsection (4).

prohibited substance, in relation to the burnout of a motor vehicle, means--

(a) petrol, oil, diesel fuel or any other flammable liquid; or

(b) any other substance that increases the risk of death, injury or damage to property (including damage to the surface of any road or to any prescribed traffic control device) from the burnout.

(2) The driver of a motor vehicle must not burnout the vehicle on a road or road related area.

Maximum penalty:

(a) if a prohibited substance had been placed on the surface of the road or road related area under, or near, a tyre of the vehicle--30 penalty units; or

(b) in any other case--20 penalty units.

(3) In a prosecution for an offence against subsection (2), it is a defence if the driver establishes that the motor vehicle, although operated in contravention of the subsection, was not deliberately operated in that way.

(4) A person must not engage in other prohibited conduct on a road or road related area.

Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.

(5) This section does not apply to the operation of a motor vehicle for a race, attempt or trial carried out in accordance with an approval given under section 5A by the road transport authority.

Note Automatic licence disqualification applies to an offence against this section (see Road Transport (General) Act 1999, s 63).

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[Matt 3 Jab]

From your original post, if the burnout was done in the carpark, im sure that is still considerd a road related area, so you cant get off there, however, you yourself did not so you SHOULD be fine, your friend however, may have a hard time getting off the charge.

[andylo]

Matt, thanks for digging up the info for your fella OZGer

[Matt 3 Jab]

no problems, what im here for. helping people is the business im going into, flash the ozgolf card and "on your way sir"