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    Default Sydney Pro wanted - stack and tilt

    Sick of dipping, once I start I can't stop.

    A bit of research indicates that S & T might be a savior of sorts. Having just practiced some google examples in my net, getting my left shoulder below my right and progressively transferring weight to the left side during the swing, maybe it could be something to try for a while.

    Does anyone teach this in Sydney?

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    I dare say the silence in response to your request suggests that either nobody knows, or nobody does it (more likely).

    I did some googling, as I once had a passing interest in S&T for a similar reason. I imagine your research threw up a thread on ISG which revealed a guy teaching at Terrey Hills Driving Range (the dart was his user name) back in 2009.

    My other clicking showed me a lot of interest back in 08, and a lot of impassioned defence of the concept by believers, but the whole debate seems to disappear by 2010.

    The whole thing was way too technical for me.

    I presume you have already dismissed the idea of having a normal lesson.

    Just buy a new driver. Isn't that what you normally do?
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    Stack and tilt can work (at least for a while) if you are flexible with a strong core.
    I really don't know any amateurs who have made it work over an extended period 3.

    Good luck on your search.
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    Pretty sure Charlie Wi was the only Tour player left that was stack and tilting, not sure if he still is, Brad Faxon tried it for a while too.

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    Gary Edwin teaches a very similar concept to S&T and has a couple of guys down in Sydney, might be worth looking into.

    http://www.garyedwin.com/coaches/australia/sydney/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimandr View Post
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    I dare say the silence in response to your request suggests that either nobody knows, or nobody does it (more likely).

    I did some googling, as I once had a passing interest in S&T for a similar reason. I imagine your research threw up a thread on ISG which revealed a guy teaching at Terrey Hills Driving Range (the dart was his user name) back in 2009.

    My other clicking showed me a lot of interest back in 08, and a lot of impassioned defence of the concept by believers, but the whole debate seems to disappear by 2010.

    The whole thing was way too technical for me.

    I presume you have already dismissed the idea of having a normal lesson.

    Just buy a new driver. Isn't that what you normally do?
    it was something I looked at years ago, and never got it. I remember Jarro kept saying he was going to do it, not sure he ever did.

    To answer your question? I had a series of lessons earlier this year that made me hit even further behind it, the guy wanted to change so much that he told me not to play for 3 months! I think I had a game with Kristian during that stage, it was abysmal.

    Anyway, thanks to others for the link to Gary Edwin, I feel I have found some simpler explanations now than what was about years ago. I'll give it a whirl the next couple of weeks and consider a lesson after that. I find a lot of pros try to change things to suit themselves, rather than the student.

    The most interesting thing will be hitting driver, not sure how high an 8.5 degree driver will go taking a divot after the ball

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    3OD your action is fine. Go and see a good pro like a Gary Barter or someone of his standing. Dont ~@#$ around with the Roy McAvoys of the world. Golf is hard enough with out some tour school reject guru's teachings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JADO75 View Post
    What's wrong with Tin Cup? He's a gun, parred the back nine with a 7 iron
    Shooter McGavin wannabe pros teaching guru methods sounds great.
    Roy was on fire back in his day!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimandr View Post
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    I dare say the silence in response to your request suggests that either nobody knows, or nobody does it (more likely).

    I did some googling, as I once had a passing interest in S&T for a similar reason. I imagine your research threw up a thread on ISG which revealed a guy teaching at Terrey Hills Driving Range (the dart was his user name) back in 2009.

    My other clicking showed me a lot of interest back in 08, and a lot of impassioned defence of the concept by believers, but the whole debate seems to disappear by 2010.

    The whole thing was way too technical for me.

    I presume you have already dismissed the idea of having a normal lesson.

    Just buy a new driver. Isn't that what you normally do?
    The Dart is Paul Hart, a google search will find him. Dart and a few others were advocates of The Golf Machine a book by an engineer named Homer Kelly. I'm not far enough up the curve to know if it has any relevance to stack n tilt.

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    3, I'm pretty sure I have the 4 DVD set. More than happy to get a copy to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerryGroves View Post
    The Dart is Paul Hart, a google search will find him. Dart and a few others were advocates of The Golf Machine a book by an engineer named Homer Kelly. I'm not far enough up the curve to know if it has any relevance to stack n tilt.
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    I tried it for a bit just going off what i read up on it on the net, ball striking was good with the irons but the woods were hard.

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    I was tilting after almost every shot today a d stacking up wipes and one pointers....does this count???

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    Gary Edwin teaches a very similar concept to S&T and has a couple of guys down in Sydney, might be worth looking in to.

    This comment above is 100% horse shit
    RSS has nothing to do with Stack and tilt

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    Still experimenting without having a lesson, there is enough on the net to keep you going I reckon.

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    There's LOADS on the net. The main problem people have is with the driver, but if you dig deep there's one or two top vids that address this. Much is in getting the hips forward and building in some decent tilt in the setup.
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    Shawn Clement has some of the best videos I think. He doesn't teach S & T, but there are some similarities;

    http://golfshane.blogspot.com.au/201...aced-tilt.html

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    I'd read about the driver issues too, right is the bad shot for sure, not just driver.

    I'm excited to be honest, it's as stable as I've been ever.

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    AoA is the drama with driver due to the nature of the beast, but they counter it to an extent with that axis tilt.
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    Here's some awesome S&T driving video's -



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    Yes, found that 2nd one. I think it's quite good.

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    there is a gazillion young clones on the gold coast stack and tilting, they stick out like dogs balls.
    I only know one who was any good - average height stocky bloke.(isnt this what the pilot said previous page)

    I think its a great method if you are built like Peter Lonard.
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    Interesting.

    I have never looked at this method before.

    I am built with even more muscle and less flexibility than peter Lonard, and I have always struggled with my shoulders taking over, as I never have had enough flexibility, and my path has typically been over the top.

    I might look further into this,mas most of the movements are close to what feels comfortable with my build,but I have not used due to traditional golf swing theory.
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