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    Sorry to say M3J go see a decent pro! Weekend warriors will give you nothing.You are square at the top and the other comments are so off the mark except for your alignment being out. Cant play like a pro if you are taking advice from Jack O'Toole the wood chop champ!

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    I've played with Matty (no homo) and he has the best driver and long iron swing I have ever seen. I think he just need to work on his wedges and have a good caddy so he can clear his head and just hit shots.

    Anyone who can hit a blade 2iron off the deck and fly it 230m+ is an awesome ball striker!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbluu View Post
    I've played with Matty (no homo) and he has the best driver and long iron swing I have ever seen. I think he just need to work on his wedges and have a good caddy so he can clear his head and just hit shots.

    Anyone who can hit a blade 2iron off the deck and fly it 230m+ is an awesome ball striker!!!
    Maybe with his wedge play, he just needs to use the rangefinder more?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt 3 Jab View Post
    Thanks mate

    Really good info and observations

    Will work at it on the range ASAP and hopefully get some video of the swings
    It is difficult to tell what is going on from pics because of camera angles. I think the important thing is to understand how it all works so that we can be our own coach and instructor. Once we tee it up on the first tee we are on our own and have to do the best we can with what we bring to the course that day. Saw this today which may help your concept of a draw swing. http://www.golfwrx.com/209833/the-te...m_medium=email
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    Agree with what Coldtopper said, we are all amatures for a reason , from the photos one lesson from a good Pro every 3 months would have you on a + handicap in no time.

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    Good range session yesterday working on alignment. Made an effort to approach the ball from behind rather than the side. Made the setup feel a lot more open but was square with hips and shoulders down the line. Turn and rip. Hit them really well

    Feel that I can stay behind and hit the draw or turn early with top half and fade it. Worked really well and was a nice feeling to work it both ways

    Only issue was I was hitting it off the toe a bit.

    But looking forward to a hit Friday after a long week at work.

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    So, been hitting it bad if late

    Last 3 holes last week, I was trying to make sure the left hip was turning and not sliding

    Easiest way I found to do that was to straighten the left leg coming into impact. I don't know if that's a good or bad idea, but 2 holes today (cancelled due to rain) I hit one solid drive, and a slight push but solid.

    Anyone got any ideas about this? My bad one of late is a massive push/cut I think due to sliding and not turning.

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    So today was a better ball striking day. Could really swing freely with the left hip turning behind and not sliding. Hit the ball well, putter let me down a lot. -6 par event with 6 or more 3 putts

    Will continue concentrating on this hip but need to sort the setup out some more.

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    Another big range session today. I've decided to go backwards and hit 3/4 punch / armsy swings to work on my ball striking. Will drop back a club or so distance wise but I started to hit the ball very consistent and straight with little movement.

    Have to try something!! Can't hit it poor all year.

    So no more big bombs of drives unfortunately but being straight at 250 should be better than wide at 280!

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    Matt, the ideal swing has the hands passing through their address address position through impact. That doesn't happen with your action, which has the hands higher through the ball because you are straightening your body angles which raises the swing axis (the upper spine) and moves it back away from the plane line (ball target line). Most players with this action will hit it towards the toe. An easy fix for irons is to fit a slightly longer shaft (or an extension) and adjust the lie angle by a couple of degrees towards the upright. The swing fix is to learn to stay on top of the ball and retain the body angles set up at address.
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    Yeah the toe is the bad miss. I just think I'm trying to hit irons too far. My plan is to go back to 3/4 shots and punch them in all day.

    I used to do the same thing but started to shank it. I know how to fix them so I'm back to hitting it shorter.

    A few lessons might help as well

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    Pulled 90% of shots today. Struck them well but just left all day.

    Not sure why. Maybe not turning the shoulders enough. Hit the last couple ok.

    At the moment I'm lost in my own swing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt 3 Jab View Post
    Pulled 90% of shots today. Struck them well but just left all day.

    Not sure why. Maybe not turning the shoulders enough. Hit the last couple ok.

    At the moment I'm lost in my own swing!
    Not enough time in the shower in the mornings???

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    I'll guess feet set up square but shoulders are open at address & you're swinging across your body
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    You may be right. It's always the setup with me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt 3 Jab View Post
    You may be right. It's always the setup with me!
    It's not.

    Your hitting 3/4 shots and you are out of sync. The lower body is going to early and releasing the club head too early. This gives you the closed face through impact.

    On the range you can fix this as you are hitting shots in quick succession.

    Get the hands down to hip height and then fire the hips. This should release the club shaft down the line.

    Another way of thinking about this is to hit the ball then rotate through... More lag. More power. Better balance. Square club face..

    Easy

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    Thanks virg. So hold that wrist angle (lag) on the downswing and through the ball more??

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    But if it starts left & goes straight Matt has put an out to in swing on it with a square face which is my guess that his shoulders are open.L, if he came through with a closed face the ball would hook/draw more to the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt 3 Jab View Post
    Thanks virg. So hold that wrist angle (lag) on the downswing and through the ball more??
    Yeah. Also called dropping it into the slot.

    You are firing the hips way too early and just closing the club face through impact.

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    Cheers. I have been releasing too early I guess.

    With the held wrists / lag, do I still use my cross court forehand for draw, forehand drop slice for fade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt 3 Jab View Post
    Cheers. I have been releasing too early I guess.
    That's what she said

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    Virge, if Matt's swing plane was correct & he is hitting with a closed face would the ball curve to the left? The fact that the ball is starting left means he has come over the top isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by virge666 View Post
    It's not.

    Your hitting 3/4 shots and you are out of sync. The lower body is going to early and releasing the club head too early. This gives you the closed face through impact.

    On the range you can fix this as you are hitting shots in quick succession.

    Get the hands down to hip height and then fire the hips. This should release the club shaft down the line.

    Another way of thinking about this is to hit the ball then rotate through... More lag. More power. Better balance. Square club face..

    Easy
    Is there a video or some reading that might expand on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JADO75 View Post
    Virge, if Matt's swing plane was correct & he is hitting with a closed face would the ball curve to the left? The fact that the ball is starting left means he has come over the top isn't it?
    No

    The ball leaves in the direction the club face at impact regardless of plane.

    If it is left going left. Then he is to far from the inside with a closed club face.

    Yuk...

    If he was OTT. he would be hitting a cut back to the fairway. Also called a pull cut which is what a lot of old guys hit when they only use their lower body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benno_r View Post
    Is there a video or some reading that might expand on this?
    Dunno... But answer me this.

    What happens to the wrists when you spin the hips or drive the legs?


 

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