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    Default Honestly, have we all been conned by the OEM marketing hype, NEW is LONGER

    Hi,

    Yes, I'm a Callaway Driver Junkie, according to the marketing, NEW is better and MUCH, MUCH LONGER, LOWER SPIN, TIGHTER DISPERSION.

    I've kept my i-Mix Razr Hawk and FT-9 heads and shafts but always discounted thinking old technology with HIGH SPIN and WIDE DISPERSION.

    I've been driving poorly with my Razr Fit and Xtreme drivers lately and decided to test my OLD Razr Hawk and Razr Hawk Tour (Tour issue) drivers against the newer and found surprisingly, the older drivers out performered the newer in consistency, forgiveness and DISTANCE

    It's annoying, I've spent $1,000's over the last few years for nothing.

    I was hitting my Razr Hawk Tour 10.5* with Vs Proto shaft today, fellow competitor said where did you hit that, I said very low and barely on the club face, but it was 10-15 metres further than where my RF with Tour AD DI shaft would go.

    I'm confused and PI$$ED.

    Cheerz
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    Driver: CALLAWAY Epic Flash 10.5* with Fujikura VENTUS VeloCore Blue 6-S
    Fairway: CALLAWAY EPIC FLASH #3 15* with Hzrdus Smoke
    Hybrid: Callaway Epic #2 18* GD Tour AD DI-85S
    Irons: Callaway 2014 Apex Forged 4-PW + AW TT XP95 S300
    Wedges: Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind 56-13, 60-10
    Putter: 2019 Odyssey Stroke Lab V-Line CS
    H/cap: 3.8

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    tell us more...

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    Well blow me down with a feather.

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    We are conned daily.
    Mickelson is the worst poster boy of them all.
    Bangs on about this that and phrankenwood blah, blah then comes out and uses a TM sldr at the preso cup!
    Give me a ****ing break.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    Well blow me with a feather.


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    Hi,

    We'll, OEM companies now releasing upto 4 new drivers per year, new club cycle used to be around 2 years before replaced.

    Claims they make that can't be substantiated.

    Cheerz

    Quote Originally Posted by GuyIncognito View Post
    tell us more...
    WITB
    ****
    Driver: CALLAWAY Epic Flash 10.5* with Fujikura VENTUS VeloCore Blue 6-S
    Fairway: CALLAWAY EPIC FLASH #3 15* with Hzrdus Smoke
    Hybrid: Callaway Epic #2 18* GD Tour AD DI-85S
    Irons: Callaway 2014 Apex Forged 4-PW + AW TT XP95 S300
    Wedges: Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind 56-13, 60-10
    Putter: 2019 Odyssey Stroke Lab V-Line CS
    H/cap: 3.8

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    Hi,

    OK, how many of us have our favourites driver of all time sitting in the cupboard thinking NEWER is BETTER.

    All I can say, is do some testing like I have, you might be surprised with the results like I was.

    Cheerz
    WITB
    ****
    Driver: CALLAWAY Epic Flash 10.5* with Fujikura VENTUS VeloCore Blue 6-S
    Fairway: CALLAWAY EPIC FLASH #3 15* with Hzrdus Smoke
    Hybrid: Callaway Epic #2 18* GD Tour AD DI-85S
    Irons: Callaway 2014 Apex Forged 4-PW + AW TT XP95 S300
    Wedges: Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind 56-13, 60-10
    Putter: 2019 Odyssey Stroke Lab V-Line CS
    H/cap: 3.8

    Clubmaker

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    I still have the launcher 460 sitting in the shed but its not as shiny as the covert

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    Hi,

    My point is, just give it another try, you might be surprised.

    Cheerz

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewasagolfer View Post
    I still have the launcher 460 sitting in the shed but its not as shiny as the covert
    WITB
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    Driver: CALLAWAY Epic Flash 10.5* with Fujikura VENTUS VeloCore Blue 6-S
    Fairway: CALLAWAY EPIC FLASH #3 15* with Hzrdus Smoke
    Hybrid: Callaway Epic #2 18* GD Tour AD DI-85S
    Irons: Callaway 2014 Apex Forged 4-PW + AW TT XP95 S300
    Wedges: Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind 56-13, 60-10
    Putter: 2019 Odyssey Stroke Lab V-Line CS
    H/cap: 3.8

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    I like new shiny things......

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    I was thinking the same thing this afternoon when I keep hitting my new Callaway 3-Deep 13* 10-15m past all of my drivers!!!

    I thought that I can't wait until Callaway brings out a 1-Deep Driver......but wait a minute.....that will probably be a Great Big Bertha with a new disguise

    PS: The GBB was probably my all time favourite driver with steel FIRM shaft.....stu
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    Had Razr Fit for about 15months now. Can't see anything replacing it.

    If I came across a 9032 or FT9 I would buy them again. Both really nice.

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    Hi,

    Do the same as me when my drivers, fairways and hybrids get dull and un-attractrive, use a quality car polish to clean then protect.

    Gloss Black is easy to restore, try that with frigg'n WHITE TM crap.

    Cheerz

    Quote Originally Posted by oncewasagolfer View Post
    I like new shiny things......
    WITB
    ****
    Driver: CALLAWAY Epic Flash 10.5* with Fujikura VENTUS VeloCore Blue 6-S
    Fairway: CALLAWAY EPIC FLASH #3 15* with Hzrdus Smoke
    Hybrid: Callaway Epic #2 18* GD Tour AD DI-85S
    Irons: Callaway 2014 Apex Forged 4-PW + AW TT XP95 S300
    Wedges: Callaway Mack Daddy PM Grind 56-13, 60-10
    Putter: 2019 Odyssey Stroke Lab V-Line CS
    H/cap: 3.8

    Clubmaker

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    I'd still be using my FT9TA if it hadn't decided to become fully two piece.

    I plan on getting another when Nudgee decides to unload his current one.

    I reckon the FT9TA was longer than the Razr Extreme - however the headcover on the Extreme matches my current model Cally Razr staff bag!

    In the mean time I plan on trying out a Cally Legacy Black driver head.
    Cheers
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    Nothing has out performed my Superfast 2.0 TP with V2 shaft.......

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    I thought nudgee just sold the FT9TA.


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    I'm convinced driver heads matter very little, except for feel. Can't see myself getting rid of the razrfit for that reason. Golf swing aside, I believe shafts are the biggest factor for distance, flight, dispersion etc.




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    He had 2. He sold the draw bias one. Last thing I need is a draw driver. He has a straight 10.5* as well.....although I also covet someone tour issue FT Tour they are currently using!!!
    Cheers
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    I have just shafted up a razr hawk tour issue with hot melt, with a axivcore 75s green. Yet to hit it, but it sits mint.


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    yep, the Razr hawk isn't coming out of the bag, nothing new comes close to it...but i do have "my" shaft in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireblade View Post
    yep, the Razr hawk isn't coming out of the bag, nothing new comes close to it...but i do have "my" shaft in it.
    What shaft?


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    Quote Originally Posted by backintheswing View Post
    What shaft?
    Carbon Fiber Products Exception 90gm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbluu View Post
    Nothing has out performed my Superfast 2.0 TP with V2 shaft.......
    But now I'm considering getting the R1......

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    Quote Originally Posted by daMANiack View Post
    OK, how many of us have our favourites driver of all time sitting in the cupboard thinking NEWER is BETTER.
    Nope.
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    Ping G430 MAX 15° - Tour Alta CB Stiff
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    Having SOME success with a Ping Tomcat, pray for me.
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    Limit of 460cc and .83 COR, there is nothing they can do to make it go further.
    All they can do is shiny graphics and some buttons/screws that we wouldnt need if we got fitted properly in the first place
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