Honestly, have we all been conned by the OEM marketing hype, NEW is LONGER

[oncewasagolfer]

Think Virge meant that titleist is longer than tm but tm is more forgiving. Or something

[TourFit]

There are definate differences in the driver heads...but strictly speaking the 460cc SP700 Ti faced drivers are no longer in true terms. What has happened over the years is that the MOI levels and the adjustability has affected the overall forgiveness levels.

On a well struck shot, the 2005 drivers are no shorter than the latest clubs in general. However, many of the latest clubs feature longer length shafts that are lighter, so the potentially perfect shot goes slightly further. Due to that length and weight though, we mortals seem to hit less of them solidly!

To do the test take a 2005 shaft in a 2005 head and the same 2005 shaft in one of todays heads...same length and swingweight. Then use one of todays shafts in both the 2005 head and in one of the latest heads. It is also trickier to get todays heads to swingweight up, 'cos most of the heads are now lighter too.

So in reality, for most of us, DISTANCE alone won't be too much different.

[Daves]

I took my original "old faithful" for a run today beside my current driver; i.e. 905R 9.5* with a Aldila NV stiff vs a 913 D3 8.5* set at +0.75* = 9.25* with a Rombax 6X07. They look very similar at address, the 905R was a relatively compact 460cc head. On good hits distance is very similar. The 913 is no doubt much more forgiving. Having said that, I don't think I missed the middle with 905R all day. I did pull it badly early though.

[Bruce]

I'm still using an MX500. I experiment occasionally but it this stays in the bag.

[Captain Nemo]

Time to bring this too life!

[Hatchman]

Not only new is longer but also that Blades or MB's as most are referred to now are so unforgiving they'll make your game worse and you must have GI/Shovels.

[Bigbad]

I think the only club that has drastically changed and been properly researched to show true numbers is the Titleist TS range. From the 917 to the TS the ball speed numbers have grown and have been proven to be true. Almost every other driver is shown to be going the same distance as it's previous models, even the comparisons between drivers show that there has been very little improvement in the overall numbers even going back 3/4 models. I still play the original M1 that Taylormade released, nothing I've hit in the newer ranges has made me want to change, but the TS3 definitely piqued my interest.

[benno_r]

I think the only club that has drastically changed and been properly researched to show true numbers is the Titleist TS range. From the 917 to the TS the ball speed numbers have grown and have been proven to be true. Almost every other driver is shown to be going the same distance as it's previous models, even the comparisons between drivers show that there has been very little improvement in the overall numbers even going back 3/4 models. I still play the original M1 that Taylormade released, nothing I've hit in the newer ranges has made me want to change, but the TS3 definitely piqued my interest.

That's only because the old models were so far behind the competition, a big increase on the TS range gets them in the ball park.

[LeftyHoges]

That's only because the old models were so far behind the competition, a big increase on the TS range gets them in the ball park.

Are you trying to tell me that I need to buy a TS to keep up with the big boys?

[benno_r]

Are you trying to tell me that I need to buy a TS to keep up with the big boys?

Normally I would, but it's a lot of money for a display coptor that will occasionally be golfed.

[SundayHack]

Are you trying to tell me that I need to buy a TS to keep up with the big boys?

I tried the TS and didn't like it. The only titleist driver I haven't owned since the 910.

[LeftyHoges]

Normally I would, but it's a lot of money for a display coptor that will occasionally be golfed.

10 rounds a year isn't value for money?

I really need to find me a sugar momma...

I tried the TS and didn't like it. The only titleist driver I haven't owned since the 910.

And that's all the recommendation I need. If a VIC Champ doesn't like it, it's off my list.

[Courty]

I tried the TS and didn't like it. The only titleist driver I haven't owned since the 910.

Our (semi) pro has always used Titleist drivers since the 905. He's tried the TS range but is sticking with his 917.

[Captain Nemo]

Are you trying to tell me that I need to buy a TS to keep up with the big boys?

No

[benno_r]

I tried the TS and didn't like it. The only titleist driver I haven't owned since the 910.

Even our resident Mackay based Titleist fanboi isn't upgrading to TS. That should tell you something.

[LeftyHoges]

Normally I would, but it's a lot of money for a display coptor that will occasionally be golfed.

I tried the TS and didn't like it. The only titleist driver I haven't owned since the 910.

Our (semi) pro has always used Titleist drivers since the 905. He's tried the TS range but is sticking with his 917.

No

Even our resident Mackay based Titleist fanboi isn't upgrading to TS. That should tell you something.

Well I give up then.

I'll just go back to not playing.

[3oneday]

Time to bring this too life!

Were you expecting this to be all Titleist?

[3Puttpete]

Are you trying to tell me that I need to buy a TS to keep up with the big boys?

Cobra Fly Z

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[LeftyHoges]

Cobra Fly Z

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I think I have one of these heads somewhere that I never bothered shafting up.

#lessdata

[benno_r]

I think I have one of these heads somewhere that I never bothered shafting up.

#lessdata

Has to be the limited edition rainbow sparkle edition though. Or the Beetroot one.

[3Puttpete]

Has to be the limited edition rainbow sparkle edition though. Or the Beetroot one.

Here’s a man who knows his fly zeds

[LeftyHoges]

Has to be the limited edition rainbow sparkle edition though. Or the Beetroot one.

If I'm not mistaken wasn't there an Arsenal limited edition one too?

Why the **** you'd want that is beyond me though. That's the golfing equivalent of hitting 12 of 14 fairways, but the 2 you miss are by so far and wide due to sheer stupidity that they completely **** up your score, rendering it all useless and futile anyway.

[Ferrins]

I have bought into 20 different drivers and the only OGgolf guy I can out drive is possibly Dotty and perci when he is using a tour issue 8.5* head with a TXXX shaft.

[Bigbad]

That's only because the old models were so far behind the competition, a big increase on the TS range gets them in the ball park.

Oh I agree, they were always on the higher spinning side for drivers, and never really claimed to be long either. So for them to go the way they did with the TS was a way to "keep up" distance wise. I've hit it in recent months and actually quite liked the feel and sound of it, would game it for sure.