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3rd January 2006 10:44 AM
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3rd Test Aus V SA
What an over from Brett Lee!!
How did that Yorker miss the stumps?
How was that LBW not out?
Is Billy Bowden now the worst umpire on the international roster?
Will be essential for the aussies to get in amongst the the lower/middle order before lunch. Could be a hard slog if they get a big 1st innings total with the failings of some of the middle order lately (excluding 2nd innings last test).
Grant
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3rd January 2006 11:21 AM
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Re: 3rd Test Aus V SA
Originally Posted by
Grunt
Is Billy Bowden now the worst umpire on the international roster?
yes
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3rd January 2006 04:30 PM
#3
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3rd January 2006 05:52 PM
#4
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Aussies in self-destruct mode?
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3rd January 2006 06:00 PM
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4th January 2006 12:57 PM
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Two things;
(a) Hodge is NOT a test standard batsman. One huge innings does not make a career and hopefully that dsigraceful dismissal will be viewed the same as the infamous D Martyn dismissal many years ago which got him the axe.
(b) this new Elim Dar (pheonetics) bloke may challenge Bowden as the worst ump around. Just popped out for lunch to see Hussey hit plum in front (hawkeye showed middle stump, 6 inches down). The only way it wasn't out was if it was edged -BUT Smith caugth it so it was still out.
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4th January 2006 01:00 PM
#7
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ALim Dar was the bloke that gave Katich out in the Ashes to that ball that hit him on the thoih pad after pitching 2 feet outside leg. He is already holder of the title!
Moe Norman
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"I had played so poorly recently, I started thinking that maybe I should do something else. Then I saw my friends going to work every day and realised that my life wasn't so bad." -Steve Pate
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4th January 2006 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by
miro
Two things;
(a) Hodge is NOT a test standard batsman. One huge innings does not make a career and hopefully that dsigraceful dismissal will be viewed the same as the infamous D Martyn dismissal many years ago which got him the axe.
(b) this new Elim Dar (pheonetics) bloke may challenge Bowden as the worst ump around. Just popped out for lunch to see Hussey hit plum in front (hawkeye showed middle stump, 6 inches down). The only way it wasn't out was if it was edged -BUT Smith caugth it so it was still out.
It's like they've been told not to give LBW, but then that one of Prince yesterday was a horrendous one to give, stuffed if I know but these blokes are making the case for going upstairs for every decision more real every day.
They'll all make themselves redundant at this rate !!!!
Pete
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4th January 2006 01:38 PM
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The CRAP umpiring is getting more headlines than the actual cricket. There have certainly been some pretty ordinary decisions
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4th January 2006 01:41 PM
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4th January 2006 01:55 PM
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You are assuming that Hawkeye is always right.
I don't think it is a correct assumption.
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4th January 2006 02:01 PM
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4th January 2006 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
jarro
I hear they're looking at using hawkeye exclusively in some tennis matches coming up
P, what's your view on that
I haven't been watching the Hopman Cup, but I think they are using it for the first time there, when decisions are appealed.
It's making the linespeople look worse than what they are when Hawkeye declares the ball is in after a little bit of ball fluff catches the outer edge of the line.
Although it is probably easier for Hawkeye to track the balls path in tennis, because it doesn't make assumptions about the bounce of the ball, like it does in cricket.
I believe the US Open is going ahead with using the technology later this year.
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4th January 2006 02:09 PM
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Ponting just given NOT OUT with the Channel 9 replay showing the ball hitting half way up middle stump. Another good decision.
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4th January 2006 02:11 PM
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When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. h.s.t.
In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and Gates.
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4th January 2006 02:12 PM
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Hussey gone. Ponting about to get yet another century.
Here is a real test for Symonds.
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4th January 2006 02:22 PM
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Is it just me or is Andre Nel a great breathe of fresh air for test cricket? He is quite a character. He has just brought the crowd right back into the game, a great entertainer.
Grant
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4th January 2006 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
Pinglauncher
Ponting just given NOT OUT with the Channel 9 replay showing the ball hitting half way up middle stump. Another good decision.
More evidence of the low standard of umpiring in the Cricket world now, is have neutral umpires that important when the best umpires are from a country playing. It means at teh moment Australia can't get teh best umpires in their test matches as the top 2 rated umpires in the world are Taufnell & Hair.
Grant
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4th January 2006 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sms316
Without rules there is anarchy.
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4th January 2006 03:51 PM
#20
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more ordinary umpiring.
I'm generally against the move to refer decisions, but these guys are doing themsleves no favours.
Moe Norman
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"I had played so poorly recently, I started thinking that maybe I should do something else. Then I saw my friends going to work every day and realised that my life wasn't so bad." -Steve Pate
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4th January 2006 04:52 PM
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My heart sank when I heard that Clowden and Duh were umpiring this test.
LBW is now decided at random. We might as well just toss a coin now after an appeal. Disgraceful.
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4th January 2006 07:20 PM
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Well i was on for Symonds to get less than 25 in the 3rd test (2 innings combined). Firmly on track.
Averages are just that - for a reason. If someone told him "we want to be 450 by stumps" he would have made a big ton, but he's not capable of a looong innings. Mind you, 75+ minutes and it was a solid 12.
Hodge's dismissal late last night was Bevan-esque. Never seen someone so uncomfortable with a short ball, mind you it was a ripper from Nel, right into his ribs.
Scenario 1 - We roll the Boks for 120-150 after MacGill and Warne go through them, game on. This also involves inspiring captaincy from Ponting who hasn't shown that he's capable of manufacturing wickets.
Scenario 2 - Boring draw with the Bok's batting us out of the game (as per their style).
Scenario 3 - We get rolled for 180 after another middle-order collapse (read - Symo, Gilly and Hodge fail, tail fails to wag and bail them out) to lose by 100+ runs.
I think Scenario 1 is a chance if we can get Smith and Kallis early tomorrow. 2 full days (with catchup time to be played), a result is still a big chance. Skull called 4 sessions to bowl us out on this pitch - and he is the guru.
Lucy Harris smart smart smart, Martin Harris dumb.
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4th January 2006 07:28 PM
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I dont fancy Australlias chances of chasing 250, which would probably be a ground record.
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4th January 2006 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by
markTHEblake
I dont fancy Australlias chances of chasing 250, which would probably be a ground record.
Considering in '94 they couldn't get to 117, i think they are slim.
Mind you, a certain bloke by the name of Cronje was in the Sth African team then........
Lucy Harris smart smart smart, Martin Harris dumb.
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4th January 2006 09:46 PM
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A run chase of around 260 was the record in the 4th innings at the SCG.
Keep in mind that South Africa don't really have a quality spinner.
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