Dealing with a cheat.

[Ashes]

Epilogue: beat the cheat in a countback for runner up. Good thing I dinged him a stroke.

He didn't look too pleased when I was accepting my new titty carry bag, Sony iPod dock and 6 pack. I did give him a sly smile while giving my.speech.

Karma is a bitch.

Was the sly smile you gave the young boy as ghey as Yoss' wave at the pizza store you keep going on about?

Nice work stitching the cheat up btw!

[Marto65]

Well Done Johnny. Congrats on the second.

Not easy to concentrate while you know there are cheats doing their thing.

Did he spend a long time looking for his ball?

[Webster]

JC, did you recruit this bloke for the WAnker Nullabor Cup team?

[Johnny Canuck]

Well Done Johnny. Congrats on the second.

Not easy to concentrate while you know there are cheats doing their thing.

Did he spend a long time looking for his ball?

It was pretty close to 5 on the incident in question.

Jack, Ashes is our token Pom and Rubn is our token cheat, we don't need another of either.

[Webster]

Just as well Shadesy isn't a Pom then.

[BenM]

I reckon the cheaters cheat because they put too much of their self worth in their golf scores.

I think this is true for more than just cheats... I definitely have this issue.

Good work on pulling him up JC. We have one at our club who likes to forget about bad shots, it's just like they didn't happen! I am told he has been suspended for it, but I don't think he's learnt his lesson since I am pretty sure I caught him doing it a while back - pulled him up on it (he claimed innocence) and watched him like a hawk for the rest of the round. It is incredibly frustrating and distracting to play with someone you don't trust. Especially when (like yours) he is a pretty decent bloke to play with other than that.

[Moe Norman]

Committee should have given you the heads up if they considered it an existing problem and expected you to police it.

I pretty much call out any cheating I ever see, so it wouldn't bother me at all to confront him.

However, I am a bit trusting and often let people wander off alone to look for their ball and don't really blink if they find it in a convenient spot.

I do however make a point of remembering what type of ball people putt out with and tee off with, and if I notice the ball they putt out with is different to their tee-ball, I always ask them wtf happened.

As for scorecard cheats, I find it difficult to catch them as if I am concentrating on my own game I find it hard to remember what others have done. Easy to get blokes who say they had par, when they had bogey. Buf if you're playing with a chopper who tells you he had 7 when he had 8, I doubt I would bat an eyelid.

[Johnny Canuck]

I have always been too trusting, thinking that no one would actually blatantly cheat. I now realise that the game is littered with them.

I am going to be a lot more aware of those in my group in the future.

[WBennett]

I'm always happy to throw a score one high or one low at an opponent on the green or the next tee and see what they say or do...

I appreciate when blokes correct you with 'nah mate, six n one'

[Marto65]

It's hard for some guys to find their balls in the scrub when it's in my pocket.

Filthy cheating b.....

[rubin]

It was pretty close to 5 on the incident in question.

Jack, Ashes is our token Pom and Rubn is our token cheat, we don't need another of either.

And your the token ass.

You've been warned about this shit before canuck.

[popper81]

It's hard for some guys to find their balls in the scrub when it's in my pocket.

Filthy cheating b.....

Rolling out old material, Mario.

[hocko]

I have always been too trusting, thinking that no one would actually blatantly cheat. I now realise that the game is littered with them.

I am going to be a lot more aware of those in my group in the future.

Yeah right! Hypocracy my friend.
You have accused TF of cheating Rubin of cheating and when you accused me a Hartfield because you couldn't remember if i 1 or 2 putted!

[Moe Norman]

lets just assume everyone in WA cheats then, much easier.

[Tomson]

Seems as there is trouble in paradise

[Johnny Canuck]

Yeah right! Hypocracy my friend.You have accused TF of cheating Rubin of cheating and when you accused me a Hartfield because you couldn't remember if i 1 or 2 putted!

There was no accusation. I was confirming your score. I had a hard time believing you made a putt. I think I also took a shot off accidentally later in the round too. You were my partner, I needed you to score well.Everyone accused the old Rubes of cheating. We believe he is reformed. The magically appearing Noodle is folklore. The Tourfit incident was discussed at length and it was more to do with handicap manipulation than cheating and I apologised for using that word.

[Johnny Canuck]

Seems as there is trouble in paradise

No trouble at all. Hocko is just stirring. I genuinely did not see him make a putt and thought he had missed it.

[backintheswing]

Could make a mini-series about what happens in the west. Days of our WAnkers.

[Moe Norman]

There was no accusation. I was confirming your score. I had a hard time believing you made a putt. I think I also took a shot off accidentally later in the round too. You were my partner, I needed you to score well.Everyone accused the old Rubes of cheating. We believe he is reformed. The magically appearing Noodle is folklore. The Tourfit incident was discussed at length and it was more to do with handicap manipulation than cheating and I apologised for using that word.

hold up.

You took a shot off his score when you were his partner and needed him to score well!

Ladies and gentlemen, what we have here is a cheat! Cheating vicariously is still cheating son!

[Jarro]

Could make a mini-series about what happens in the west. Days of our WAnkers.

Whoever would play the role of Yoss ?

[Pieface]

Matt Lucas

[TourFit]

From what I have read, there is no no evidence of cheating at all.

It seems that you, ultra competitive as you are, and feeling threatened by someone above you on the leaderboard, have got it into your head that your playing partner cheated...once that thought was there, you were obviously going to reinforce it through the round.

a) Incident 1 may well have been a range ball that he picked up (or another ball that was not his), either way you have NO evidence because you did not identify it...

b) Incident 2 on the back nine Par 3 again sees you speculating as to what he was doing, because again, you have no real evidence. He may have been just picking up his ball from under the bush to positively identify it as his. If he did not mark it before picking it up, then you were correct to point out his penalty. You then speculated that he was "probably putting it in there"...but again that is just conjecture.

The game of golf requires someone to largely call penalties on themselves most of the time...but to catch a cheat in the process of cheating you have to be VERY sure of what, how and when he has done it. Unfortunately, to me, you can't be certain of the two incidents you mentioned.

[Johnny Canuck]

I called him on picking up his ball. It also appeared that he moved it, as witnessed by me, but there is nothing I could do about that.

It is speculative regarding the range ball and the other incident, which is why I made no mention to him. However, when you learn there is a history, you tend to think you were correct.

Also,he wasn't ahead of me on the leaderboard until late in the round and realistically didn't view him as a threat as I didn't think he had the game to compete. His status in the comp had nothing to do with it. I'll call out a 36 capper just as quick as I would a scratch marker if he is intentionally.breaking rules.

[matty]

Let me get to my recliner with the popcorn.

[dc68]

Whoever would play the role of Yoss ?

Justin Beiber?