I think that might have happened to me a little while ago too, and to make it even worse I was having a really good round for me at +3 through 14 holes. Sprayed the drive a bit right into the trees between the 15th and 16th fairways, walked up there and it was nowhere to be seen. There was a group coming down 16 at the same time so who knows, either one of them nicked it or it copped a weird bounce off a tree that we couldn't see and wasn't where we thought.
Being Stableford I just took a wipe but I was annoyed for the rest of the round.
Is it cheating when you pick up an abandoned ball near a bloke having a swim?
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This is a really tough rules question, but i am very sure there would have to be some supporting evidence other than "its impossible to have finished there".What i do know is that if a ball at rest is moved ( or nicked) by an outside agency you put it back, but if the player didnt know it was moved, he is not penalised for playing next shot from a wrong place.
Rule 9.6 https://www.randa.org/rog/the-rules-of-golf/rule-9
Your scenario depends heavily on the principle of "Known and Virtually Certain" https://www.randa.org/rog/definition...tually_certain
read all 3 examples shown here and apply to your situation.
Also - you needed to have heard the "call from up the hill" within 3 minutes of starting to look for your ball. If after, then all the above is moot, ball is already lost.
Is it cheating when a player looks for a ball for more than, way more than, three minutes? A guy in my group on the weekend looked for a long time which included all of us at some stage. He did end up going back to the tee to hit another one, then found his first ball on his way back.
Yep, happened to me years ago, before I new what a discussion forum was and before I'd heard of rec.sport.golf. Lost ball in the trees, washed hole, found my ball three holes later in the middle of the 9th fairway, which was nowhere even close to adjacent to where I lost it. Surely whoever played it by accident would have known straight away it was theirs; it was a Dunlop Titanium Distance after all - like hitting a brick.
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I confused the question by adding what he ended up doing. I know that the ball is lost once you play another one, and he didn't play the original. The question was about searching for too long; I guess it is cheating, although not as bad as some other forms.
Some people just can't give a ball up. I've declared my own ball lost after a few minutes, and my playing partners sometimes keep looking, and I have to insist that they stop.
That's me, but I'd give up no issues! With the amount I end up in the trees, I hate holding those behind us up! I don't think a lot of people realise just how short 3mins actually is - it goes real fast when looking for a lost ball. But the big time waster is having to head back to the tee to hit another - which I generally won't do in a Stab round. I'm lucky enough that even in my current condition I can run there and back. But that's a huge amount of time gone, when you add in the time looking for the ball.
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A few years back had a kid come and nick all 4 balls from on and around a green. Ran after him and said that he needed to hand them back, he did so, plus about 4-5 others!
He was walking with his mum who was oblivious to what had happened, mum and kid apologised after explaining what happened.
I generally keep a 2nd ball on me now, stuff the people who think your setting yourself up.
The 3rd at Tas is a notorious ball eater, but blokes that have played there for years and send it all over the shop still refuse to bring a spare ball, even when playing from the backs so they have to waddle off 50 meters to their bag and then back, plus they'll spend another 5 looking for thier pill.
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