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    Quote Originally Posted by jaybam View Post
    I like how Abbott believes we are not all equal. I like how Abbott believes in work choices for hard working shit kicker workers so his mate's can get richer. Hold on I better stop. The sarcasim will kill me.
    I don't really know what to make of this, Heals, you take it.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteyD View Post
    I don't understand why people are scared by Abbott?

    He is not stupid or silly, he is a Rhodes scholar, fwiw.
    PeteyD, I don't know the bloke, he is my local member, whilst clearly he is in a predominately liberal electorate, it's hard to find someone with a bad word to say about the way he engages with the local community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razaar View Post
    At the end of the day we end up with politians. One lot are spendthrifts while the other side thrifty. ....... But first is to get back into the seats and control the purse strings.
    I'll admit I've only been watching for 25 years, but which side is the thrifty one again??? I've only seen tax and spend in red and tax and spend in blue for the last 20 years.
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    At the end of the day we end up with politians.
    If you were to choose between politicians, like we all have to what would you prefer?

    Politician A: Finished school, joined a political party immediately. Attended University and is active in politics from the age of 17. Then became a member of staff for that political party and never worked in private enterprise, ran a business, or really ever stood on their own 2 feet in terms of gaining employment in an open market based on skill/ability/experience, but rather worked in an environment where your political view is the key to your appointment to your role.

    Politician B: Finished school, went to university, graduated. Either went on to post graduate honours, or moved into a career. Enjoyed a long and successful career in private enterprise, then after a bit of thought chose to sacrifice that career to enter politics. Not all did the Uni thing, but the career bit is almost universal.

    One party is full of A's and the other is full of B's.

    Everyone is entitled to a preference, but I like the B's myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerryGroves View Post
    Can anyone tell me 3 policies the Libs would sack and what they would replace it with, otherwise continue on with the personality contest.
    Labor made pretty major changes to some of the thresholds as part of their 'weath re-distribution policy' e.g. baby bonus, family tax benefits.

    I doubt any of these would be repealed but for me this crystalises the difference in the two parties. One thinks that any family on a combined income over $100k a year is rich.. the other thinks that if you are earning a decent salary and paying a sh*tload of tax that you are entitled to some relief.
    You're in big trouble though, pal. I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe Norman View Post
    One party is full of A's and the other is full of B's.

    Everyone is entitled to a preference, but I like the B's myself.
    Which is which...I get confused these days

    It all makes my head hurt, AND I DON'T LIKE IT!!!

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    The career politicians (as in from young ...s through uni politics, straight into the party machines) concern me. I guess that is Moe's A's.

    The other thing is that people seem to think it is a vote for Julia or a vote for Tony. When in reality, it is a vote for the party, as Julia showed us all to easily.





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    Default The Politics Thread

    The only thing I'm confident of is after the last 3 years it's just about goodnight Irene for the minor parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    The only thing I'm confident of is after the last 3 years it's just about goodnight Irene for the minor parties.
    I think both Windsor and Oakshot will survive. Their ability to deliver for their local members through their association with the Government may have paid dividends....

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    What have they delivered Wb?

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    I thought Windsor was retiring.
    Forum needs more banter.

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    Yoss

    http://www.tonywindsor.com.au/hpa.html

    His electorate has had some special treatment.

    Having worked for however many years of Liberal/National Government in Environmental Grants programs etc, this is just standard Government of the Day operating policy. Some of the funding decisions that were made ignoring the apolitical advice for the Natural Heritage Trust had very little scientific basis, and significantly more "Locational Priority"

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    Quote Originally Posted by sms316 View Post
    I thought Windsor was retiring.
    So did I bit it appears not.

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    The independants I dont mind, I guess they signed up with the side that gave them the bigger advantage. As for the Greens I hope that Generation X or whatever has seen their true colours now and will stop voting for them, and hopefully see them go to the Pauline Hanson graveyard for the biggest jokes in australian politics

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    Where is macjack when you need him? Remember his carrying on when I suggested people actually read the greens policies prior to voting for them?





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    There is a growing set of group As on the conservative side too. Eg. Total **** - Alex Hawke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wbennett View Post
    I think both Windsor and Oakshot will survive. Their ability to deliver for their local members through their association with the Government may have paid dividends....
    Name whatever price you want WB, and I'll take your bet on both of them getting back in..... Especially Oakshot!!

    Theres more chance of me taking the #1 ranking off McIlroy than that happening!!

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    I am more confident about Windsor than Oakshott but know Wilkie has very little chance of survival.

    Election question - ACT has two electorates with 125000 voters in each. Tasmania has 5 with 40,000 in each. Do they count heads?

    How is this representative?

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    Different rules for states and territories

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3puttpete View Post
    Different rules for states and territories
    Yes, but how is that representative?

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    As far as I can tell, the territories are allocated 2 seats each regardless of population. The states' allocations are based on population. It's not supposed to be representative, it looks like a token gesture because they're not states

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbennett View Post
    I am more confident about Windsor than Oakshott but know Wilkie has very little chance of survival.

    Election question - ACT has two electorates with 125000 voters in each. Tasmania has 5 with 40,000 in each. Do they count heads?

    How is this representative?
    There are close to 360k of enrolled voters is Tassy so you math seems to be out somewhere?

    http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/...-election.html

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    Why does the ACT get anything, they are not a state.

    Do you get any senators?





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    From http://www.aec.gov.au/FAQs/Redistributions.htm

    Twelve months after the first meeting of the newly elected House of Representatives, the Electoral Commissioner ascertains the population of the Commonwealth (excluding the territories) using the latest official statistics published by the Australian Statistician. The Commissioner then makes a determination of the number of parliamentary representatives to which each state is entitled. A similar exercise is used to calculate the entitlements of the territories.


 

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