2012 WAnker Matchplay. Brought to You By Ghey Butter.

[Yossarian]

With thanks to Simmsy!

Cut off is March for Round 1! Aim for earlier!

[veeman]

So whos next Please YOSSS

[Yossarian]

Sorry imageshack deleted my pics or something.

Back up now. You play the winner of JC and Shadesy.

[veeman]

Easy win if I play JC go JC sorry about that Shadesy

[Johnny Canuck]

Still using those strokes as crutches, or will we settle this like men if I get past Shadesy?

[veeman]

I beat you once... Just ask Nuffie and I can do it again

[Johnny Canuck]

I beat you once... Just ask Nuffie and I can do it again

You didn't answer my question. Your handicap beat me once.

[veeman]

You didn't answer my question. Your handicap beat me once.

So what your point... a win is a win... did you have to give 11

[Johnny Canuck]

So what your point... a win is a win... did you have to give 11

My point is that you are saying that you'll beat me, but in reality, you probably wouldn't if we played it legit.

It is like me telling Usain Bolt that I'll beat him in a race and that I am faster than him, but then turning around and asking for a 30m head start.

You can't talk smack, if you have to depend on a handicap to do your dirty work for you.

[veeman]

My point is that you are saying that you'll beat me, but in reality, you probably wouldn't if we played it legit.

It is like me telling Usain Bolt that I'll beat him in a race and that I am faster than him, but then turning around and asking for a 30m head start.

You can't talk smack, if you have to depend on a handicap to do your dirty work for you.

Isnt that why we have caps so that its even

I dont think I needed my cap to beat you last time you beat yourself ... but if I need my cap to beat you so be it

Remember its not how long you hit the ball its the score at the end

[Johnny Canuck]

Isnt that why we have caps so that its even

I dont think I needed my cap to beat you last time you beat yourself ... but if I need my cap to beat you so be it

Remember its not how long you hit the ball its the score at the end

Without caps last time it would have been square when the match ended.

I did play crap and can make no excuses on that.

My only point is that if you want to talk a little smack, it should be backed up in a manly way and you shouldn't hide behind the cap or at least play at 3/4 like a lot of the other matches.

I still have a big task at taking down Shadesy, so it might not even happen.

[veeman]

I know that feeling giving away shots how many do you give him

I had to give away 11

[Johnny Canuck]

Shades will be getting 6 or 7. A while back he mentioned something about playing at off the bat, but I think he might have been drunk.

[sms316]

dc68 won this yet?

[idgolfguy]

Shades will be getting 6 or 7. A while back he mentioned something about playing at off the bat, but I think he might have been drunk.

It is a tough task giving away more than 4 shots on Matchplay.

Hocko lost his to me that way, I felt a little uncomfortable back then too.

I don't play Pennants anymore as all Division 5 and above play handicaps and having to give 6 or 7 is not fun.

Unfortunately, there isn't a more equitable system.

[Yossarian]

People that have lower handicaps than me are whiny girls. There is a reason you have to give me that many shots. It is because I am a chopper with 22,222 posts or something. Toughen up ladies.

[sms316]

3/4 difference is the fairest. Choppers tend to have a couple of blowouts which doesn't affect them as much in matchplay.

Problem is that choppers get on boards and think that they actually deserve to get their name on the honour board.

[Yossarian]

The reason you play off 1 is because you don't have blowout holes. That means you are even better at matchplay.

Suck it up biatch.

[Shadesy]

Shades will be getting 6 or 7. A while back he mentioned something about playing at off the bat, but I think he might have been drunk.

I wasn't drunk and am considering it.

I like Id don't like giving shots up in Matchplay when realistically I can shoot birdie on most holes playing off 9-10.

Sure I'll probably get pumped, but to be the best you have to beat the best.

[Johnny Canuck]

I wasn't drunk and am considering it.

I like Id don't like giving shots up in Matchplay when realistically I can shoot birdie on most holes playing off 9-10.

Sure I'll probably get pumped, but to be the best you have to beat the best.

I was pretty sure that you said you wanted to test yourself and do it.

Then, I thought maybe I was drunk and imagining it. Not too many "man up" around here. Most talk about being excited that their handicaps are blowing out for champs.

[Ashes]

Most talk about being excited that their handicaps are blowing out for champs.

Surely they're joking? I know I am. Would much rather be off lower than face the embarrassment of having a handicap where it is at te moment.

[Johnny Canuck]

Surely they're joking? I know I am. Would much rather be off lower than face the embarrassment of having a handicap where it is at te moment.

It is funny how some people's minds work.I discussed cap manipulation with one member who told me a few people.that were guilty of it and how it was terrible.Shortly thereafter, the same member said they didn't care about their score that day and were happy not to hand in a card to get a shot back.I play to get as low as I can.

[Ashes]

I do find the golf handicap thing a bit weird. When I was racing mtb's I was never a chance of winning a race, but I was quite happy tryin to keep getting better placings. For me, my focus is on trying to break 90 for the first time in a comp and to get my cap back into the teens.

[idgolfguy]

It is funny how some people's minds work.I discussed cap manipulation with one member who told me a few people.that were guilty of it and how it was terrible.Shortly thereafter, the same member said they didn't care about their score that day and were happy not to hand in a card to get a shot back.I play to get as low as I can.

I don't believe there is any OZGolfer here that would sandbag for champs. If they did, they would be ostracized off the forum. There's always talk about about the lower HCs 'blowing out' by a couple of strokes. Jack or JC having an extra one or two strokes more going to make the difference - IMO - I doubt it.

It is tougher for the lower HC players to win in these type of events due to the lack of divisional separation. A chopper (12ish - 27) is more likely to shoot 40+ points than a 4 HC who has to Par every hole or birdies to make up for the one or two bogeys. The courses we are playing aren't all easy and KB (Tips) will be challenging. Marty is the best amateur I have played around with so far, considering the weekend activities, I would be very impressed if he came in with 39 points on Sunday.

OZgolf champs here has been a game of attrition, post a good score on the early rounds and defend that good score based on the individual's stamina. We all don't play multiple rounds on a weekend nor do we binge regularly. From a golfing perspective - it is a tough toll.

The money games are a different story...

[Veefore]

I know a lot of people who talk about blowing out their handicap for this or that event.
Hell I do it myself. But when they are playing a comp beforehand and get to that 16th hole with a chance to post a score and win a golf ball and knock a shot off their handicap, I've never seen one deliberately throw out the anchor and actually back up the words.

Mostly I think it is covering for their embarrassment. Nobody wants to admit that their handicap is going out because they are just playing shit golf. Much easier to make like you are ambivalent about it and letting it happen on purpose.

[Yossarian]

I sandbag all the time.