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    Default G-Mac in 2012

    At the end of 2010, it looked like that 2011 would be even better for G-Mac. Wrong.

    There's an interesting article here about his fortunes this year.

    7 top 10s & 7 missed cuts. "He had a one-shot lead at The Players Championship until closing with a 79. He never missed a shot in practice at the British Open, then chopped his way to a double bogey on the opening hole at Royal St. George's and wondered what hit him."

    Wonder what 2012 will hold for this guy. Thoughts?


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    I'd have hoped for big things for him in 2011

    Was it the ball?

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    He will go downhill


    the guy i think will be the star of 2012 is








    Ricky Fowler.
    can see him cracking the top 10 by xmas next year

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    [QUOTE=TheAwesom1;738752]He will go downhill


    the guy i think will be the star of 2012 is








    Ricky Fowler.
    can see him cracking the top 10 by xmas next year[/QUOTE

    God I hope not..
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    I was in quite a heated topic on ISG about G-Mac and his move to Srixon - me saying how stupid it was to move for the cash after one (and only one) standout year, and all the other yokels over there yelling me down. I maintain it was stupid and his results don't exactly say I was wrong. He would have been much better consolidating on his success on the course rather than off it.

    No secret I'm a Titleist fan, but Fowler's move to Cobra could go the same way (if he stays with Titleist balls I may stand corrected) and he hasn't exactly achieved anything. The PGA is littered with careers that have failed on the basis of change of equipment for no real reason bar cash (Villegas anyone). I know there have been some successes as well, but there are far more failures than successes.

    Not necessarily suggesting G-Mac is gone, but it has certainly stalled his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexMc View Post
    I was in quite a heated topic on ISG about G-Mac and his move to Srixon - me saying how stupid it was to move for the cash after one (and only one) standout year, and all the other yokels over there yelling me down. I maintain it was stupid and his results don't exactly say I was wrong. He would have been much better consolidating on his success on the course rather than off it.

    No secret I'm a Titleist fan, but Fowler's move to Cobra could go the same way (if he stays with Titleist balls I may stand corrected) and he hasn't exactly achieved anything. The PGA is littered with careers that have failed on the basis of change of equipment for no real reason bar cash (Villegas anyone). I know there have been some successes as well, but there are far more failures than successes.

    Not necessarily suggesting G-Mac is gone, but it has certainly stalled his career.
    Fowler would keep titleist ball and the wedges i would assume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAwesom1 View Post
    Fowler would keep titleist ball and the wedges i would assume.
    Why, given the new line of wedges just released I think they'll be in his bag.
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    True. It is always the equipment changes that cause these stars to have a bad run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markTHEblake View Post
    True. It is always the equipment changes that cause these stars to have a bad run.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexMc View Post
    I was in quite a heated topic on ISG about G-Mac and his move to Srixon - me saying how stupid it was to move for the cash after one (and only one) standout year, and all the other yokels over there yelling me down. I maintain it was stupid and his results don't exactly say I was wrong. He would have been much better consolidating on his success on the course rather than off it.
    One of the "yokels" that disagreed with you was Bowdo who made the point that the ball was far more important than the club. Pat yourself on the back if you wish however proving that the change in clubs was the reason he didn't reproduce is not possible.

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    How is the view from up on the mountain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    How is the view from up on the mountain?

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    It's alright

    It isn't just the equipment change - also the level of comfort a $3 Million a year contract gives you. All of a sudden you don't have to play your guts out to make a living.

    Bowdo did talk about the ball - note the caveat on Fowler's success moving to Cobra. He did have a point - I also note he plays Pro V's and not Srixons. Mind you for $3 Million I'm guessing you don't have that luxury.

    Any way... In this case the change from Callaway to Srixon did him no good. Called it at the start of the year, think I got it right.

    I thought I read that Fowler has a 13 club contract and is sticking with Scotty putters. Whether he sticks with a Titleist ball I don't know.

    I guess my point is do you take the $3 Million a year and have to get used to new gear (and in his example it was a substantial change), or do you knock it back, go with what you know and continue your momentum. I'd take the latter given I had some cash in the bank already after the success of 2010. Some wouldn't.
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    How do you know it was the equipment change t and not one of the million other factors that led to the regression?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexMc View Post
    I guess my point is do you take the $3 Million a year and have to get used to new gear (and in his example it was a substantial change).
    This is a huge stretch, what exactly was this significant change?

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    I suspect it's more about the difficulty of staying up all the time, not the equipment change. It's very, very normal and regular for pros to change to new equipment I woulda thought.
    1. It's clearly tough to stay at the top.
    2. It's tougher for someone with a slightly unorthodox swing.
    If it wasn't for those damn putters......

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    Quote Originally Posted by markTHEblake View Post
    This is a huge stretch, what exactly was this significant change?
    Significant change in equipment - clubs and ball. Change one of those at least you have something familiar. Change both and you have to get used to those slight differences straight away - and given he was playing events in January that doesn't leave much time.It was originally just a thought and people got so emotional over it. I want to see the guy succeed - he has got a great game and seems like a cool guy. It was just a puzzling move to me and a great example of the "dollars versus titles" debate. I don't blame him for wanting to cash in on his success, but I also don't want him to fade away either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulyboy View Post
    I suspect it's more about the difficulty of staying up all the time, not the equipment change. It's very, very normal and regular for pros to change to new equipment I woulda thought.
    1. It's clearly tough to stay at the top.
    2. It's tougher for someone with a slightly unorthodox swing.
    There is no doubt it is tough for someone to have that sort of year and keep it going the next year. And yes most pro's would change equipment manufacturers at least once in their careers - some can make the move (Woods, Mickelson), some haven't made a real good fist of it (Villegas). I just find it interesting is all - a bold move to change crucial parts of your success when you have just cracked the top 10.

    I guess me coming into this post saying I was right at the start of the year made me look like a wanker, and fair enough getting called out on it.
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    Nah, not calling you out

    Just adding my opinion is all.
    If it wasn't for those damn putters......

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexMc View Post
    It was originally just a thought and people got so emotional over it.
    Any emotion from other punters came from you steadfastly refusing to believe what you were told by a PGA pro, you apparently not understanding the deal GMac wrote and now on another forum trying to claim the high ground.

    I see (above) your theory is now clubs and ball, again Bowdo told you it was the ball, your original premise was just the club change. You are getting the same answers here, is everyone wrong, maybe it's you?

    http://forums.iseekgolf.com/forums/1...-srixon?page=1

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    Maybe it is. After a year can you say the change of equipment helped or hindered him? I don't think anybody can really say it helped him.Perry - it's a forum. It is about debating topics. If everybody agreed it would be pretty boring. I had a thought about the change - and yes I focused on the clubs rather than the ball, which didn't really matter given he changed both - and I stand by it. The guy isn't the same golfer he was this time last year.
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    I thought that the argument was his change to "inferior equipment" from memory - I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong.

    Yet he came out of the blocks in his first tournament and was in contention.

    Form slump perhaps - and he didn't get handed his Srixons off the shelf, I'd think they "might" be a spec that would be as close to identical to his previous setup?

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    I never said the equipment was inferior - I said that no one has ever moved to Srixon and their career improved. Anecdotal evidence only. A lot changed in a year - heck I even used Q Stars for a while!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    How is the view from up on the mountain?
    This was more directed at The Awesome1 who has passed judgement on quite a few pros now.


 

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