Golf rules.......I need to be tested.

[Flowergirl]

Am thinking about doing an accreditation exam on golf rules for our club next month. Seeing I'm pretty average - well ok - pretty poor - on golf rules - I thought I'd get you guys to come up with some senarios for me and see if I can get em right.
I've done a few qolf rules quizzes on the net - but most of them are multiple choice and I'm good at guessing.
I don't know why I'm asking some of you clowns out there - I shudder to think of what G69 and Jarro will come up with ( actually I'm shuddering with anticipation )
No - seriously - quiz me now.

[markTHEblake]

Try this one.

Player marks his ball on the green, cleans it, then returns to play the ball, he cant find his marker. The marker is in his pocket so he realises he somehow picked up the marker while marking his ball.

What happens next?

[McMw]

I heard that happened once on tour...sposedly...
was either langer or woosie...

[Flowergirl]

If the ball or marker is "accidently" moved in the process of lifting the ball to mark its position - the ball must be replaced. There is no penalty provided the movement of the marker is directly attributed to the specific act of marking the ball.
So - in the case of above - I'm assuming in this situation the marker may have stuck to his hand or glove "accidently"- so there is no penalty.
As the spot is not determinable, the ball must be placed as near as possible to the place where it laid.
????? am i right huh huh well am I?????
give me another.....

[Kee]

Ok, I don't know the answer to this but it has happened to me.

On the green, I mark my ball and pick it up. When it was my turn to putt, I put the ball back, removed the marker, but the ball start to roll backwards about 10cm (downhill slope). What is the correct thing to do?

[McMw]

FG, I think there is a penalty there....

[Flowergirl]

FG, I think there is a penalty there....

Think or know?

[McMw]

I'm pretty sure, coz like I said, it's happened once on tour...
I think it was woosie...
he got to the green, marked his ball, picked ball and marker up and hurried to the porta...

what you're referring to is if the marker's accidentally moved....

and if I'm not mistaken, Brett Rumford got a stroke penalty not last year, but perhaps the year before...he dropped his ball on his marker, causing the marker to move...


someone will correct me on this tho...this is off the top of my head...

[Flowergirl]

Ok, I don't know the answer to this but it has happened to me.

On the green, I mark my ball and pick it up. When it was my turn to putt, I put the ball back, removed the marker, but the ball start to roll backwards about 10cm (downhill slope). What is the correct thing to do?

Rule 20-3 d Ball fails to come to rest on spot.
if a ball when placed fails to come to rest on the spot which it was polaced, there is no penalty and the ball must be replaced. If it still fails to come to rest on that spot it must be placed at the nearest spot where it can be placed at rest that is not nearer the hole and not in a hazard.
If a ball when placed comes to rest on the spot on wehich it is placed, and it subsequently moves, there is no penalty and the ball must be played as it lies .

[markTHEblake]

So - in the case of above - I'm assuming in this situation the marker may have stuck to his hand or glove "accidently"- so there is no penalty.
As the spot is not determinable, the ball must be placed as near as possible to the place where it laid.
????? am i right huh huh well am I?????
give me another.....

nearest determinable spot.
I'll give you half a point, as the marker was in his pocket he must have put it there.

[markTHEblake]

Rule 20-3 d Ball fails to come to rest on spot.

c'mon lady, its no good just quoting rules you gotta decipher them

There is two solutions there to Kee's situation, which one are you giving him!

[Flowergirl]

WEll firstly I'm allowed to have the rule book in front of me for the test.

In Kees case - The ball must be placed at the nearest spot - no closer to the hole - where it will stay at rest. No penalty. Final answer - don't have to phone a friend.

[Flowergirl]

So - in the case of above - I'm assuming in this situation the marker may have stuck to his hand or glove "accidently"- so there is no penalty.
As the spot is not determinable, the ball must be placed as near as possible to the place where it laid.
????? am i right huh huh well am I?????
give me another.....

nearest determinable spot.
I'll give you half a point, as the marker was in his pocket he must have put it there.

So no penalty?

[Flowergirl]

I'm pretty sure, coz like I said, it's happened once on tour...
I think it was woosie...
he got to the green, marked his ball, picked ball and marker up and hurried to the porta...

what you're referring to is if the marker's accidentally moved....

and if I'm not mistaken, Brett Rumford got a stroke penalty not last year, but perhaps the year before...he dropped his ball on his marker, causing the marker to move...


someone will correct me on this tho...this is off the top of my head...

Ok - with this situation where he picked his marker up - there was no accidently factor here - just plain stupid 1 point penalty.
Same situation with Rumford. It wasn't moved in the act of placing or replacing ball - so 1 point penalty applies.
Pretty sure I'm right - I think

[wavemaker]

Thanks for posting this FG as I have a question that will be answered by one of the gurus. Playing the 14th at Maryborough last Friday, the green was covered in debris from a huge gum tree about 20 mtrs away. Lots of little stuff, not just leaves etc. I read somewhere that the rule had been changed and you were allowed to use your hat or towel or whatever to clear your line. Later my playing partner told me that I had done the wrong thing by doing so. What is the ruling?

[markTHEblake]

WEll firstly I'm allowed to have the rule book in front of me for the test.

In Kees case - The ball must be placed at the nearest spot - no closer to the hole - where it will stay at rest. No penalty. Final answer - don't have to phone a friend.

i dont think you can effectively answer Kee's question until you can determine when the ball moved. It either moved as soon as he placed it or some time later. Different decision for either scenario.

[McMw]

Thanks for posting this FG as I have a question that will be answered by one of the gurus. Playing the 14th at Maryborough last Friday, the green was covered in debris from a huge gum tree about 20 mtrs away. Lots of little stuff, not just leaves etc. I read somewhere that the rule had been changed and you were allowed to use your hat or towel or whatever to clear your line. Later my playing partner told me that I had done the wrong thing by doing so. What is the ruling?

u didn't do anything wrong, unless ur partner claims that you were pressing down on the line...

[Flowergirl]

I agree that kees situation had two senarios - I just made a choice.

Wavemaker - The rule was amended to provide that you may remove loose impediemts on the putting green by any means provided you don't press anything down.
Hey - be a good idea to carry a dustbuster in your bag

[wavemaker]

I have made a scabbard on my buggy for my 2stroke blower vac, some of the members have had a bit of a whinge but you can't hear em with the earmuffs on!

[Flowergirl]

Ok ..........more tests please...come on guys......

[markTHEblake]

Player enters a hazard and removes a loose impediment, like a stick or branch, and then another one, another one, and then picks up two and has tossed them all aside. Yes the impediments were moved seperately but it was one contininous process of removing them (one after the other).

How many penalty strokes?

[Flowergirl]

Lots???
Looked up rules concering loose impediments in bunkers but can't figure it out. Is there a situation where there are no additional penalties for subsequent breaches or whatever ( she says clutching at straws)
Matchplay loss of hole - is that good enough

[990B Luva]

as they are loose impediments no penalty unless they are manmade items

[Pinglauncher]

I'm pretty sure, coz like I said, it's happened once on tour...
I think it was woosie...
he got to the green, marked his ball, picked ball and marker up and hurried to the porta...

what you're referring to is if the marker's accidentally moved....

and if I'm not mistaken, Brett Rumford got a stroke penalty not last year, but perhaps the year before...he dropped his ball on his marker, causing the marker to move...


someone will correct me on this tho...this is off the top of my head...

Ok - with this situation where he picked his marker up - there was no accidently factor here - just plain stupid 1 point penalty.
Same situation with Rumford. It wasn't moved  in the act of placing or replacing ball - so 1 point penalty applies.
Pretty sure I'm right - I think

Yep, 1 shot penalty. I was actually stupid enough to do it last year.

I had marked my ball and was then requested to move coin as it was on an opponents line. When I went back to take my putt and remark my position we could not find the coin. Sure enough it was in my pocket DOH !!

[markTHEblake]

Lots???
Looked up rules concering loose impediments in bunkers but can't figure it out. Is there a situation where there are no additional penalties for subsequent breaches or whatever ( she says clutching at straws)
Matchplay loss of hole - is that good enough

No. give me the real answer for strokeplay. I want to know if I had an 8 or a 14 on that hole.