The "Ask a Clubmaker" Thread

[chappy1970]

Thanks mate. I can see 12 brass shims for $16 on Amazon decent price.

I use mesh similar to fly wire.

Provides the necessary tip expansion, as well the perforations allow the epoxy through

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[Hatchman]

I use mesh similar to fly wire.

Provides the necessary tip expansion, as well the perforations allow the epoxy through

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I like that idea a lot for better adhesive coverage.
Do you cut it in the pattern like the shims or just wrap it around the shaft?


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[PeteyD]

I have used the plasterers tape thats like a mesh to do the same thing

[chappy1970]

I like that idea a lot for better adhesive coverage.
Do you cut it in the pattern like the shims or just wrap it around the shaft?


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I just wrap it Hatch and never had an issue, and I have done many of them

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[Hatchman]

I just wrap it Hatch and never had an issue, and I have done many of them

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I’m interested in the method.
Do you glue the mesh to the shaft and let that dry or assemble everything at the same time?
My brain is thinking the mesh might move out of position otherwise.

[chappy1970]

I’m interested in the method.
Do you glue the mesh to the shaft and let that dry or assemble everything at the same time?
My brain is thinking the mesh might move out of position otherwise.

I typically do it the same action Hatch. Depending on the rigidity of the mesh, you can apply epoxy to the hosel or tip, insert the mesh, then apply epoxy to the tip and insert into the hosel or tip.

Doing it in 2 steps e.g. gluing the mesh to the tip first, letting it dry, then gluing the tip/mesh into the club tip or hosel, is no issue, you will just need to send the tip/mesh as the dried epoxy might not fit into the hosel correctly.

A single step is what I typically use

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[TheNuclearOne]

question is.
what is the STANDARD uninstalled, un gripped shaft length to go into a 45 inch build ?

That is completely 100% dependent on the head. For some it might be around 43" for another it might be closer to 44". Callaway at one point added 2 1/4" to a gripped shaft which was quite extreme. The industry standard was mostly accepted as a 43.5" gripped shaft playing at 45" before adapters came into it.

[Yossarian]

Hello

I have a set of Ping i210's. One or two of the ferrules have been damaged so was thinking of getting some of the fancy striped one's.

https://www.golfbox.com.au/shafts/bb...cross-10-pack/

Will these go on the pings, google suggesting ping ferrules have collars??

[thatguy]

Info suggests the irons have a hosel OD of .520 which is the important dimension (minimise effort to turn them down) plus a space for the collar though that isn't critical.

So any 0.520 OD (or slightly larger) ferrule will work in your desired length and style.

FWIW - The BB&F website is scant on dimension info so they may or may not be .520 or larger and work

[Yossarian]

Info suggests the irons have a hosel OD of .520 which is the important dimension (minimise effort to turn them down) plus a space for the collar though that isn't critical. So any 0.520 OD (or slightly larger) ferrule will work in your desired length and style.FWIW - The BB&F website is scant on dimension info so they may or may not be .520 or larger and work

Thanks mate!

[ParkRoyal]

Dibs...


I need to replace a couple of ferrules on my i200s so will actaully be interested on how you go with them.

[Frank]

Also looking for Ping collared ferrules. Need some for a set of i59 irons. Anybody know where I might be able to get some? Golfworks shipping was a bit much for a small order.

[goughy]

So I'm going to play around with the sw of my clubs. I've cut my old driver to 44", and I'm going to play my other one gripped down, and will use some lead tape to get the sw up.
My wedges are pretty much staying as they are, which are around D4 and up. But my irons (4i to pw) are floating between C7 and C8, so I'm going to bring them up to D2 (why...why not) with lead tape to see how they feel. My 4w and hybrid are around D2 to D2.5 (as were/are my drivers at 45.5"+) though I may be shortening them too.
The lead tape looks pretty shit on my irons (not that it's a big issue for me), and I can't see it at all at address, but I'm wondering if you guys prefer using tip weights for this, and is there a difference in how the club feels/performs between tip weights in the shaft and tape on the club head?

So it's basically taken 6+ months for this experiment to make it to a golf course; 18 holes at xmas and 9 holes a week ago. Considering how seldom I play it's near impossible for me to truly know, but I certainly seemed to have lost height and distance with these irons taped up! The lead tape is high up on the back of the club though, as that's kinda where it seemed the place to put it, so maybe that's a negative? And it's a bit of tape, since most have moved from C8 to D2.
Particularly the last 9 hole game I was swinging pretty good, with some good drives and 3 good 3w's (I never hit my 3 wood well, ever) but my irons were very meh. My 9i and pw were off as well, and normally my most consistent clubs regardless of whether I'm playing well or not. Only 1 gir which was the first hole - a short par 3 where my pw landed short but just bounced on. And I was taking 5mtrs off my "expected" club distances as it was. It probably weirds me a bit because I'm never hitting my woods well and my irons are saving me. These two games hit irons poorly whether woods went well or not.

Maybe ping knows more about club making than I do? Who'd have thought?

[goughy]

So had been waiting for my proshop to pull the shaft from one of my driver's and put a Titleist driver tip on it, but were some issues with the shaft. So I found two driver shafts I had here (had forgotten I had them) and dropped them down and asked if they could put an adaptor on each of these? No probs.
Taken about 3 weeks to get them (have dropped in a couple of times and weren't ready) and got them today and I'm wondering if something looks a little wrong with these?

[goughy]

He said to me when he gave them to me that I hadn't given him any ferrules.........

So what do I do here? I just wanted to leave when I saw them. They need to be pulled to get ferrules on there? They look crap.

[Wenz]

That's just piss poor service. He should have mentioned you need ferrules when you dropped them off.

Or at the very least, could have put some of the clubs ferrules, turned them down and charged you.

It looks ugly but will play fine. If you want you'll need to get them pulled and reinstalled with ferrules.

[virge666]

That is fking appalling.

3 weeks to do what is basically and 15 min job, and not give you ferrules !!

WTAF... please tell me it was free?

(if you cover postage.. i will do them for free)

[goughy]

Nope! Granted most of the cost was for the two new Titleist driver adapters. In hindsight I should have just bought the wrappers of them and done them myself. I never would have thought I'd need to say the word "ferrule" to them, and honestly I was so stunned when I saw them I just wanted to get out of there!
It would be like me covering someone's chair but not putting a dustcover on the bottom.
I may take you up on that! I'm not ready to play around with graphite shafts yet, particularly pulling adapters. I have seen a way to make a shaft extractor from a disc brake spreader, which I may make one day.

[virge666]

Nope! Granted most of the cost was for the two new Titleist driver adapters. In hindsight I should have just bought the wrappers of them and done them myself. I never would have thought I'd need to say the word "ferrule" to them, and honestly I was so stunned when I saw them I just wanted to get out of there!

But the adapters come with ferrules.. it is part of the kit.

This is utter nonsense.

[goughy]

That's what I thought, Having looked online for them!

[Hard_Pan]

I swapped my Ping 430LST head for a Ping 425 head in my Ventus Red 6S and suddenly the shaft I wasn't on speaking terms with, is suddenly whispering sweet lovings at me. Where I was fighting blocks and pushes to the right (RHG), I'm now more or less down the middle. Narrow fairways be damned!!

I figure this is down to the bigger head being heavier. Now, I'm thinking, can I get my 430LST to work with this shaft again if I made it the same weight as the 425? If yes, does anyone know what the weight difference might be and would it be better to try hot melt or lead tape? Thoughts would be very much appreciated.

[goonie]

With the STD back weights the LST head should be 2 grams heavier than the G425 Max, you may be liking the G425 Max better because it should SW around 1pt lighter, and isn't fade biased like the LST heads.

Also some people find a heavier weight at the back helps close the face (Stock weights - G430 LST 22g, G425 Max 26g)

I would suggest you get them on a swing weight scale, also measure the total club weights on some kitchen scales to see which combo is heavier.

When I had a G430 LST I had to switch from a 22g to a 14g weight to play the shaft I wanted and keep swing weight under control, as Ping normally use counterbalanced shafts to work with there heavier heads, I also played a 9* at 10.5*, this worked well until I improved my swing and started hitting the ball to high, when I went back to 9* I kept losing it right and couldn't keep it straight so I had to move it on.

[Hard_Pan]

With the STD back weights the LST head should be 2 grams heavier than the G425 Max, you may be liking the G425 Max better because it should SW around 1pt lighter, and isn't fade biased like the LST heads.

Also some people find a heavier weight at the back helps close the face (Stock weights - G430 LST 22g, G425 Max 26g)

I would suggest you get them on a swing weight scale, also measure the total club weights on some kitchen scales to see which combo is heavier.

When I had a G430 LST I had to switch from a 22g to a 14g weight to play the shaft I wanted and keep swing weight under control, as Ping normally use counterbalanced shafts to work with there heavier heads, I also played a 9* at 10.5*, this worked well until I improved my swing and started hitting the ball to high, when I went back to 9* I kept losing it right and couldn't keep it straight so I had to move it on.

A lot of what you're saying rings true. Will try weighing both combos as suggested. Thanks Goonie!