The "Ask a Clubmaker" Thread

[chappy1970]

Yep, that's the one Ash

[LeftyHoges]

Ordering a 16° hybrid. Is it possible to get it bent to 15°?

[chappy1970]

Yes it is, but I don't have the gear

[LeftyHoges]

Yes it is, but I don't have the gear

All good, thanks mate. Just good to know it can be done.

I'll try it at 16° and will have a look at bending it down the track.

[oldracer]

All good, thanks mate. Just good to know it can be done.

I'll try it at 16° and will have a look at bending it down the track.

depends on how you hit it Lefty, guarantee it will get bent at some stage!!!!!

[Forecaddie]

if you're in Sydney, I can bend it.

[LeftyHoges]

depends on how you hit it Lefty, guarantee it will get bent at some stage!!!!!

Probably not, graphite shatters before it bends.

if you're in Sydney, I can bend it.

Unfortunately not, but I guess that's what Aus Post is for. I'll give it a run first and see how we go, thanks FC!

[davidw88]

I want to extend a wedge 1/2 inch and have some old shafts to use for the extension, where abouts do you cut the shaft so it will fit inside the other.

[Captain Nemo]

Trial and error, depending on what brand shaft your cutting.
Set of calipers will be your friend.
I generally insert 1" (no homo)

[davidw88]

righto, will have to get the verniers out.

[ozbrother]

Looking to pull the S300s out of a set of 710 AP2s and replace with stiff Nippon 1050s. From what I can see they are both .355, so should be OK.

Problem is, I only have 4-9 in the AP2s and as it so happens, only 5-PW in the Nippon shafts. Unless I grab a 4 iron shaft, I'm hard stepping, right?

Haven't done this before - so any dramas or things to be aware of? I'm aware that hard-stepping once adds (approx) 1/3 flex point. No big deal there. What about length? Hard stepping means a shorter, slightly stiffer and lighter shaft doesn't it...How would this normally affect club performance? I guessing it won't travel as far. If I want the shaft the way it was designed I'm lengthening each one...then I might as well buy a matching 4 iron shaft for the job.

Hopefully makes sense and isn't nonsense....thanks.

[Daves]

Yes, you are the right track. 5 into a 4 etc would be a hard step. The Nippons are a touch soft in comparison, so you are unlikely to notice any diff. I think building them to the right length is far more important than any minor flex differences. Assuming the shafts are the same length ie. 5i = 5i, then you are looking at half an inch short if you hard step. You can install extensions, or buy the 4i shaft as you say. Have you been fitted for length?

[Johnny Canuck]

I want to extend a wedge 1/2 inch and have some old shafts to use for the extension, where abouts do you cut the shaft so it will fit inside the other.

Put the old shaft in the top of the one you want to extend. When it stops. Pull it out an inch and mark it. No need for calipers.

You may need to cut some of the tip end section off to make this method work, but it is very simple.

[davidw88]

Yeah got it done now, must of been a .580 butt shaft the old one so fitted perfect when cut straight off the end.

[FuzzyJuzzy]

Gents,

Just want to ask you guys who know about this stuff. Is it a dodgy practice to adjust lie in irons with the shaft still in the head? Or is that normal practice? And if it's done with the shaft still in the head and as a result the tips of the shaft are a little bent, what sort of problems could that lead to? Could be a stupid question…but thanks nonetheless. Cheers, FJ.

[Daves]

Yes, the shafts are normally still in place when they are bent. The bending is done via a bending bar that fits onto the hosel, there shouldn't be any significant force on the shafts in the process.

[Captain Nemo]

I dont have a loft/lie machine but every set ive had adjusted they have been complete, shaft in....
Just saying.

[benno_r]

If you bend properly, you bend the hosel where it meets the face, not the part where the shaft is.

You can bend without the shafts in, but most machines need the shaft into measure them.

Cheers,
Ben

[FuzzyJuzzy]

Yes, the shafts are normally still in place when they are bent. The bending is done via a bending bar that fits onto the hosel, there shouldn't be any significant force on the shafts in the process.

Thanks mate. So if the tips are slightly bent, would that suggest the process wasn't done as it should have been or something? I had it done professionally by blokes I trust…and for what it's worth I'd been using the irons for ages with no problems at all. I only found out the tips were slightly bent when another OzGolfer had the irons and changed out the shafts… .

[Captain Nemo]

Thanks mate. So if the tips are slightly bent, would that suggest the process wasn't done as it should have been or something? I had it done professionally by blokes I trust…and for what it's worth I'd been using the irons for ages with no problems at all. I only found out the tips were slightly bent when another OzGolfer had the irons and changed out the shafts… .

IMO thet would have occurred through careless shaft pulling, not from loft/lie adjusting.

[Daves]

IMO thet would have occurred through careless shaft pulling, not from loft/lie adjusting.

What the Captain said. There is only a bit over 25/30mm of shaft in the hosel, so I struggle as to how the tips would get bent, if the bending is done properly. Much easier to bend the tips if you pull the shafts the wrong way, as you are applying force typically at the grip end where there is a lot of leverage. Having said that, I have yet to see any bent tips, but have seen plenty where the bend is about 25cm along from the tip.

[FuzzyJuzzy]

Thanks Gents.

[D22marshall]

I have seen bent tips. And I think these are the ones I had in my hands. They were visible by eye but went I went to tip prep and rotated the shaft it was so so visible.
I also said that it is from incorrect removal of the shafts combined with over heating.

[FuzzyJuzzy]

I have seen bent tips. And I think these are the ones I had in my hands. They were visible by eye but went I went to tip prep and rotated the shaft it was so so visible.
I also said that it is from incorrect removal of the shafts combined with over heating.

You mean the 712 AP2s from RQRox that he had the Rifles put back last weekend? That'd be the ones I'm talking about here.

[D22marshall]

You mean the 712 AP2s from RQRox that he had the Rifles put back last weekend? That'd be the ones I'm talking about here.

Na not those ones