The "Ask a Clubmaker" Thread

[LeftyHoges]

Some companies do, some don't. Bottom of bore to ground is approx 1.75" on most modern drivers (give or take). On old glued drivers, BBGM was 1.25 to 1.5". So you could tip trim 1/2" or so (and many companies do std these days), but I never bother (I don't flush it as hard as you though).

Cheers Benno, can't hurt me to stiffen the tip a little more regardless, 1/2'' off it is!

[Bitter]

I know TT Black and Gold shafts play firm to flex but after ripping the grip off one I found the following, is it possible they are actually X flex rather than S? There are no shaft labels either?

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[Daves]

I know TT Black and Gold shafts play firm to flex but after ripping the grip off one I found the following, is it possible they are actually X flex rather than S? There are no shaft labels either?

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Looks like it. I have a PDF saved for these and the code matches to Taper Tip X flex. The 385 = 38.5"

[Bitter]

Looks like it. I have a PDF saved for these and the code matches to Taper Tip X flex. The 385 = 38.5"

Cheers, much appreciated. I thought they felt really stout! Thinking I'll soft step twice and see how they go.

[Daves]

Cheers, much appreciated. I thought they felt really stout! Thinking I'll soft step twice and see how they go.

The 385 shaft is a 6i shaft, tip length is listed as 5.5".

[Bitter]

The 385 shaft is a 6i shaft, tip length is listed as 5.5".

I have them 3-w but only need 5 -w so should be able to soft step?

[Daves]

I have them 3-w but only need 5 -w so should be able to soft step?

Yep, 2 SST = 3 into 5, 4 into 6, 5 into 7 etc.

[Jazz18]

Wanted to chop 0.5" of my driver shaft so have removed the grip. Discovered there is an extension in the end of the shaft (not done by me) that's roughly 0.5" long. Want to remove the extension not just cut it off in case I want to re extend it if I don't like it shorter. Any tips on the best way to do this? Could heat it I guess and pull out with pliers but didn't know if I would damage the butt of the shaft doing that. Exy shaft so want to be very careful. Don't want to have to replace it. Cheers.

[Captain Nemo]

Wanted to chop 0.5" of my driver shaft so have removed the grip. Discovered there is an extension in the end of the shaft (not done by me) that's roughly 0.5" long. Want to remove the extension not just cut it off in case I want to re extend it if I don't like it shorter. Any tips on the best way to do this? Could heat it I guess and pull out with pliers but didn't know if I would damage the butt of the shaft doing that. Exy shaft so want to be very careful. Don't want to have to replace it. Cheers.

I've always just heated gently with heat gun, you can tell when the epoxy has given way then pull with pliers..,

[Jazz18]

I've always just heated gently with heat gun, you can tell when the epoxy has given way then pull with pliers..,

Cool, thanks L. I thought I could do that but wasn't sure. Thanks for the confirmation.

[Captain Nemo]

Keep heating the bond will break and smoke usually happens then pull. Don't concentrate heat to one spot keep moving it around...

[pt73]

A tip on Golfwrx suggested to do this and it's worked fine for me with both "old shaft" type extensions and ones from Golfworks etc.

Take an old piece of steel shaft, slide it inside the extension until it's snug and mark that spot.

Heat the shaft at the marked point with a butane torch (I've also used propane), slide it inside the extension and leave it for a minute or so.

Do that a few times and you should be able to remove it with some pliers.

The idea is not to heat the outside of the shaft just the inside of the extension to break the bond.

[chappy1970]

Top tip PT, I never stop learning

[Jazz18]

A tip on Golfwrx suggested to do this and it's worked fine for me with both "old shaft" type extensions and ones from Golfworks etc.

Take an old piece of steel shaft, slide it inside the extension until it's snug and mark that spot.

Heat the shaft at the marked point with a butane torch (I've also used propane), slide it inside the extension and leave it for a minute or so.

Do that a few times and you should be able to remove it with some pliers.

The idea is not to heat the outside of the shaft just the inside of the extension to break the bond.

Thanks PT. This sounds like an excellent way to do it. Th only problem I have is I suspect the extension is plastic. I'm would probably an issue either way if it is but if it's a proper graphite extension, I'll give this a try. Cheers

[chappy1970]

Rich if it's plastic, trim the extension, then drill out what's left in the butt of the shaft

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[TourFit]

A plastic extension will stand a fair bit of heat though. If you spread the heat up and down, as well as around the shaft butt, then it should be enough to loosen the extension enough to pull it. Just be careful not to twist in the early stages, but as the extension comes out and is looser it should be OK to twist a little.

[pt73]

Thanks PT. This sounds like an excellent way to do it. Th only problem I have is I suspect the extension is plastic. I'm would probably an issue either way if it is but if it's a proper graphite extension, I'll give this a try. Cheers

Jazz,

The first one I tried this on was a plastic extension and it worked like a charm.

I just took it slowly and didn't overheat the steel shaft so had to repeat the process a few times until the bond broke.


Peter T

[TourFit]

With a steel shaft you can heat it up and twist it out as soon as there's a little movement (no homo!)

It's different in graphite, as you have to be careful with the amount of heat, as well as any twisting, as it may cause some delamination in the fibres at the end of the shaft.

Simplest method, if in doubt, is just to cut the extension of at the end. The glued in piece will make little, if any, difference to performance.

[Captain Nemo]

A tip on Golfwrx suggested to do this and it's worked fine for me with both "old shaft" type extensions and ones from Golfworks etc.

Take an old piece of steel shaft, slide it inside the extension until it's snug and mark that spot.

Heat the shaft at the marked point with a butane torch (I've also used propane), slide it inside the extension and leave it for a minute or so.

Do that a few times and you should be able to remove it with some pliers.

The idea is not to heat the outside of the shaft just the inside of the extension to break the bond.

Must try that one sometime...great tip Pete.

[Jazz18]

With a steel shaft you can heat it up and twist it out as soon as there's a little movement (no homo!)

It's different in graphite, as you have to be careful with the amount of heat, as well as any twisting, as it may cause some delamination in the fibres at the end of the shaft.

Simplest method, if in doubt, is just to cut the extension of at the end. The glued in piece will make little, if any, difference to performance.

Thanks mate. I'd like to try and get it out first but if I have any doubt that I might damage the shaft, I'll just be cutting it off for sure.

[Daves]

Thanks mate. I'd like to try and get it out first but if I have any doubt that I might damage the shaft, I'll just be cutting it off for sure.

Have you checked whether it is actually epoxied in? I don't use epoxy for this very reason.

[Jazz18]

Have you checked whether it is actually epoxied in? I don't use epoxy for this very reason.

Yep it does appear to be glued in. I'm assuming epoxy was used. I'll double check but I'm pretty sure it's not loose. How else can you fix an extension in?

[Jazz18]

Rich if it's plastic, trim the extension, then drill out what's left in the butt of the shaft

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A plastic extension will stand a fair bit of heat though. If you spread the heat up and down, as well as around the shaft butt, then it should be enough to loosen the extension enough to pull it. Just be careful not to twist in the early stages, but as the extension comes out and is looser it should be OK to twist a little.

Jazz,

The first one I tried this on was a plastic extension and it worked like a charm.

I just took it slowly and didn't overheat the steel shaft so had to repeat the process a few times until the bond broke.


Peter T

Thanks for all the advice fellas. Definitely going to try the heating with an old steel shaft first. Sounds like if I take my time to do it, it will work well. I can just see myself stuffing it up if get a drill or saw near this, I'm going to damage the end of the shaft. Will probably just leave it in if the heating trick doesn't work and just grip down a bit.

[Daves]

Yep it does appear to be glued in. I'm assuming epoxy was used. I'll double check but I'm pretty sure it's not loose. How else can you fix an extension in?

Supa Glue and masking tape mostly.

[Jazz18]

Supa Glue and masking tape mostly.

Oh ok. How do you remove if needed? Can you just break the supa glue bond with some force or another way?