Don't know the shear strength mate.
You won't have to remove the grips, just make sure that any epoxy in the tip of the shaft is removed with a drill bit so that the air can escape up the shaft if needed
Don't know the shear strength mate.
You won't have to remove the grips, just make sure that any epoxy in the tip of the shaft is removed with a drill bit so that the air can escape up the shaft if needed
Srixon 565 - 10.5 deg stiff Miyazaki
Srixon 565 - 15 deg stiff Miyazaki
Srixon H45 - 90gr Stiff Whiteboard
Fourteen DI w/ SPB Stiff
Bridgestone J15CB 4-PW SPB's Stiff
Fourteen MT28 TS Spec 53 & 58 DG Spinner
Piretti Cortino
GOLF Link
BENCH
Drivers/Fairways/Hybrids
Yamaha v202 9.5* - Tourspec x flex
Sonartec SS-03
V Steel 3wd
V Steel 4wd Attas T3 8x
Titleist 585h 19*
Irons
Mizuno MP33 3-P
Putters
Ping Anser, Anser 2, Scottsdale
Wedges
Cleveland 54
Fourteen 48
Don't panic. The 5&15 is the most finnicky epoxy you might ever use. You have to go for broke mixing it fast and get the job done pronto. From memory i limited myself to 2 or 3 clubs max at a time. Single is even better, definitely if a shim is involved. Once you've twisted the head on and quickly aigned it you cannot move it whatsoever again. Even wiping the excess you need to make sure you don't twist the head at all.
How many clubs did you do at a time? How long was the epoxy setting for by the time you finished a mix? Did you get the club aligned instantly and then leave?
Get something like the 20/20. 20-30 work life and 20 hour cure. The 5&15 is quite stressful to use LOL
WITB
TRS2 9* Velocore Blue 7s
G430 9* Ventus Velo 7s
Titleist TSI2 15* DI7s
Ping G425 19* hybrid Accra TZ6
Tour Edge XCG 24* hybrid Altus
Srixon ZX5 MKII 6-pw
Ping Stealth 2.0 50*SS, 54*SS, 58SS/TS*
TP Mills Tour Fleetwood
I often use the Brampton 5 min stuff. Never had a problem with it, I only mix for 3 clubs at a time, if it starts to go off, mix some more
in the bag
Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo
RBZ tour spoon BT8M3 stiff
HB 910 19deg Matrix O white x stiff
Wilson staff FGV6 Tour Forged irons
wedges trusty tour 50; 54; 58
SC FB no1 or SC red X
and stuff in the pocketsT7M3 S
Isn't the shaft already maximally filled with air though (unless the several layers of masking tape on the butt of the shaft aren't airtight)? Wouldn't the air from the hosel get trapped (or alternatively, push out the epoxy)?
Only 1 per mix, so had to do it 8 times over. The timer was set for 5 minutes once the 2 parts were initially mixed and the club was assembled/cleaned before the timer ended.
In regards to the Araldite, where can I source it for a decent price? $56.50 for 200mL through Bunnings seems a bit costly!
I only ever use 2 part epoxy from golfworks or the like
http://www.golfworks.com/category.as..._33_A_c2c_E_ln
**** dicking around with araldite and the like.
Hmmmmmm, when i say you can't twist the clubhead again at all once you quickly twist it on then quickly align i am talking straight away. Lets say a few seconds to twist the clubhead onto the shaft then instantly align within a couple of seconds - once. No more movement even when wiping excess. This is regardless of the 5 minute period. Would you have been this pedantic?
There's some good deals on Brampton 20/20 for e.g. on U.S. ebay Ducky.
WITB
TRS2 9* Velocore Blue 7s
G430 9* Ventus Velo 7s
Titleist TSI2 15* DI7s
Ping G425 19* hybrid Accra TZ6
Tour Edge XCG 24* hybrid Altus
Srixon ZX5 MKII 6-pw
Ping Stealth 2.0 50*SS, 54*SS, 58SS/TS*
TP Mills Tour Fleetwood
I've used the 24 hour epoxy from Hireko (which is relabelled Hardman Epoweld 8200) without issue. I should have gone for the same epoxy, but I thought that the Brampton 5&15 would be more convenient. Once again, I'm unsure if the epoxy was at fault or I was, as this is the first time I've done an assembly with shims.
Well, I couldn't really rotate the shaft after inserting it into the club-head (due to the tight fit with the shim), so I was aligning the shaft beforehand. Could I say for sure that it wasn't slightly rotated after insertion? No. The only thing I can say with certainty is that it was placed into the drying position before the 5 minutes had expired.
Ok. I've found on the odd occasion even when certain everything has been done to perfection the bond is still weak. I used it a lot over a period of 4 months or so and tho nothing gave way a few pulled waaaaaaay too easily. A couple may have even budged a bit without heat.
WITB
TRS2 9* Velocore Blue 7s
G430 9* Ventus Velo 7s
Titleist TSI2 15* DI7s
Ping G425 19* hybrid Accra TZ6
Tour Edge XCG 24* hybrid Altus
Srixon ZX5 MKII 6-pw
Ping Stealth 2.0 50*SS, 54*SS, 58SS/TS*
TP Mills Tour Fleetwood
Srixon 565 - 10.5 deg stiff Miyazaki
Srixon 565 - 15 deg stiff Miyazaki
Srixon H45 - 90gr Stiff Whiteboard
Fourteen DI w/ SPB Stiff
Bridgestone J15CB 4-PW SPB's Stiff
Fourteen MT28 TS Spec 53 & 58 DG Spinner
Piretti Cortino
GOLF Link
BENCH
Drivers/Fairways/Hybrids
Yamaha v202 9.5* - Tourspec x flex
Sonartec SS-03
V Steel 3wd
V Steel 4wd Attas T3 8x
Titleist 585h 19*
Irons
Mizuno MP33 3-P
Putters
Ping Anser, Anser 2, Scottsdale
Wedges
Cleveland 54
Fourteen 48
OK, cool. Hopefully, I'll have better luck this time around. I'm just debating whether to use the Araldite Super Strength for quick turnaround time or import the Hardman Epoweld 8200 from Hireko.
Yeah, I was worried about this. I know that only a thin coat of epoxy is generally required, but it was a really tight fit with the shaft/shim going into the hosel. I don't know what the solution would be? I've read of people who cut half of the prongs off the shim to increase the surface area of the shaft.
I still think 90% of the issue is the particular epoxy.
Try one again with it anyway. Cut half the prongs off the shim, sand the shim, get tip and hosel perfect, twist the head on and leave it alone pronto. Even if you turn the head a little 5 seconds after aligning the bond is weakened with 5&15.
I don't believe you get as good a bond when shimming as when not either, so it's even more important to be spot on. I actually wouldn't buy the 5&15 again personally. I was never impress. It was ok for those now and then glue and hit 2 hours later jobs but i'd never use it consistently.
WITB
TRS2 9* Velocore Blue 7s
G430 9* Ventus Velo 7s
Titleist TSI2 15* DI7s
Ping G425 19* hybrid Accra TZ6
Tour Edge XCG 24* hybrid Altus
Srixon ZX5 MKII 6-pw
Ping Stealth 2.0 50*SS, 54*SS, 58SS/TS*
TP Mills Tour Fleetwood
would shaft beads, be better than the brass shim, or is it to much of a size difference?
in the bag
Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo
RBZ tour spoon BT8M3 stiff
HB 910 19deg Matrix O white x stiff
Wilson staff FGV6 Tour Forged irons
wedges trusty tour 50; 54; 58
SC FB no1 or SC red X
and stuff in the pocketsT7M3 S
Steve I think that the size variance might be a little to much for shafting beads.
I use beads routinely and hvae never consider its use as a shim, maybe it would work, you'd need quite bit though I would think
Srixon 565 - 10.5 deg stiff Miyazaki
Srixon 565 - 15 deg stiff Miyazaki
Srixon H45 - 90gr Stiff Whiteboard
Fourteen DI w/ SPB Stiff
Bridgestone J15CB 4-PW SPB's Stiff
Fourteen MT28 TS Spec 53 & 58 DG Spinner
Piretti Cortino
GOLF Link
BENCH
Drivers/Fairways/Hybrids
Yamaha v202 9.5* - Tourspec x flex
Sonartec SS-03
V Steel 3wd
V Steel 4wd Attas T3 8x
Titleist 585h 19*
Irons
Mizuno MP33 3-P
Putters
Ping Anser, Anser 2, Scottsdale
Wedges
Cleveland 54
Fourteen 48
Thanks Chappy, was just a thought.
Last edited by Steve; 1st September 2014 at 06:18 PM.
in the bag
Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo
RBZ tour spoon BT8M3 stiff
HB 910 19deg Matrix O white x stiff
Wilson staff FGV6 Tour Forged irons
wedges trusty tour 50; 54; 58
SC FB no1 or SC red X
and stuff in the pocketsT7M3 S
Hi guys ive never ventured into this thread before so forgive my ignorance.
But if I bought a set of irons std L/L/L how much would it cost to get the lie changed to 1degree upright?
Send Mr Bluuuuu a PM
in the bag
Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo
RBZ tour spoon BT8M3 stiff
HB 910 19deg Matrix O white x stiff
Wilson staff FGV6 Tour Forged irons
wedges trusty tour 50; 54; 58
SC FB no1 or SC red X
and stuff in the pocketsT7M3 S
Hi guys,
I am installing a set of KBS tours stiff (soft stepped) tapers into my irons and find the weight of the 5 (4i ss) iron shaft is 102g. The cut weight of the rest of the shafts are between 109 to 111g. Seems odd to me considering these are supposed to be constant weight. The shaft is definitely stamped as a stiff, correct size and definitely taper tip.
So two questions. Do KBS shafts typically vary this much? Would you guys notice the difference?
Cheers
Pete
Last edited by PeteRH; 1st September 2014 at 09:39 PM.
It might be a ring in, maybe a tour V shaft, KBS tours ard 120g tour V are 110g uncut
in the bag
Cleveland Launcher HB Turbo
RBZ tour spoon BT8M3 stiff
HB 910 19deg Matrix O white x stiff
Wilson staff FGV6 Tour Forged irons
wedges trusty tour 50; 54; 58
SC FB no1 or SC red X
and stuff in the pocketsT7M3 S
Pete it's odd that the weight variance for this shaft is so great, the biggest challenge will be matching the swing weight to that of the remainder of the set
Srixon 565 - 10.5 deg stiff Miyazaki
Srixon 565 - 15 deg stiff Miyazaki
Srixon H45 - 90gr Stiff Whiteboard
Fourteen DI w/ SPB Stiff
Bridgestone J15CB 4-PW SPB's Stiff
Fourteen MT28 TS Spec 53 & 58 DG Spinner
Piretti Cortino
GOLF Link
BENCH
Drivers/Fairways/Hybrids
Yamaha v202 9.5* - Tourspec x flex
Sonartec SS-03
V Steel 3wd
V Steel 4wd Attas T3 8x
Titleist 585h 19*
Irons
Mizuno MP33 3-P
Putters
Ping Anser, Anser 2, Scottsdale
Wedges
Cleveland 54
Fourteen 48
I hope not. The etchings say the correct shaft and TOUR S but they may have just stamped it wrong. The best outcome will be an underweight Tour shaft.
I run the weights through that hireko swing weight calculator and thats where I picked it up. It showed another 2g tip weight to bring it up.
I will run it and just see......but I am sure it will play soft just because I know it is a bit lighter. If someone else shafted them up I would probably not have noticed. That is one of the problems with doing your own gear. Wondering or knowing if it is done right.
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