Houston WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!!!!

[nudgee]

I was just talking to my pro friend on the phone about the Oz Golf Champs and was giving him the low down of my weekend. I told him how I went walkabouts in the middle of the second round before rallying in the last three holes. I told him about the bad luck I had on the 16th hole which went something like this.

Hit 20* hybrid off the tee (yes I know that was ghey) and hit it long and down the middle. I could not reach the green in two so I hit a 6 iron intending to land it in flat area short of the greenside bunkers, however I tugged it a little and it took a bitch of a bounce left into the trees. Fortunately I found the ball and whilst it was against a big tree root, I still had a shot and managed to blast it out. The ball just stopped short of the green side bunker, basically 1 cm from dropping in - a very sandy lie. Unfortunately with my chip I didnt pick the ball up cleanly, fluffed it a bit and it did not make it onto the green - and to add insult to injury it plugged at the face of the bunker about 1 foot from the lip!!! I cracked it and proceeded to throw my wedge at high speed into the bunker (yeah I know, another cranky moment!). The wedge head plugged into the bunker like an axe but was away from the ball. I grabbed the wedge and took a funky stance outside of the bunker and proceeded to play a blast shot that propelled the plugged ball 20 feet into the air and it landed 1 foot from the hole so got away with a bogey. At the time I had joked with the guys that thank god I let go of the wedge before it hit the sand as otherwise it would have been deemed to be a case of testing the bunker conditions.

However to my great horror, my Pro mate INFORMED ME that as the Wedge head was plugged in the sand, the mere action of lifting the wedge should be deemed as testing conditions and should therefore have attracted a 2 shot penalty!!!! ****!!!

I must admit I don't know the rules that well and as I did not get much of a reaction from my group (even when I made the comment about testing sand conditions) as to a potential breach of the rules I thought it was all good. However I don't want to win the Champs if I was wrong in my assessment and should have incurred a two shot penalty.

Is my Pro friend correct in his assessment??? I don't want to add any further drama to this but I cannot accept the Champion tag and Trophy if I was in clear breach of the rules and should have incurred a two stroke penalty.

For the record, I am serious about this.

[Marto65]

Ok , I'll start.

Wow.

[Tomson]

I tip my hat to you sir for being honest.

[Sydney Hacker]

I tip my hat to you sir for being honest.

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+1, would of been very easy to keep it to yourself!

[live4golf]

Proof that this is truly a gentleman's game....

Can we call you Dustin?

[just]

The champs was so last week. The results are in and the tournament finished and as per any other comp, that would be the final result. But you are a champion fella.

[live4golf]

ohhh yeah, just is right...changes nothing. Still want you to be known as Dustin though

[PeteyD]

Yep. You are champ, the tournament is already called.

[Bruce]

Ummm.. really.

You do have a problem.

13-4/35 Hitting Sand in Bunker with Club After Failing to Extricate Ball
A made a stroke in a bunker and failed to get the ball out. He then swung his club into the sand, but his action did not affect his new lie in the bunker. However, since A had to make another stroke in the bunker, was he in breach of Rule 13-4?

Yes. None of the Exceptions under Rule 13-4 apply to A's action.

[live4golf]

Extricate...sounds dirty

[WBennett]

nudgee, it was not a Kenny Perry cheat. Your marker did not pick it up, and neither did your markers. Nudgee, without controversy, wins

[Yossarian]

Ummm.. really.

You do have a problem.

13-4/35 Hitting Sand in Bunker with Club After Failing to Extricate Ball
A made a stroke in a bunker and failed to get the ball out. He then swung his club into the sand, but his action did not affect his new lie in the bunker. However, since A had to make another stroke in the bunker, was he in breach of Rule 13-4?

Yes. None of the Exceptions under Rule 13-4 apply to A's action.

He didn't make the fluff in the bunker but just outside it, then threw his crub into the bunker?

[PeteyD]

Anger managment

[Ned]

No brainer....nudgee wins the champs but he has to repay me the $20 he "won" off me.
The bookies pay on podium positions in motor racing even if there are post race protests.

wanker...........

[nudgee]

He didn't make the fluff in the bunker but just outside it, then threw his crub into the bunker?

You are correct

[jaybam]

Thank god for that. Could you imagine having to all go back up there for another presentation??

[TourFit]

Well, as I see it (after looking it up of course), the question isn't about the club going INTO the bunker as the previous shot was played from ouside of the hazard...it is as Nudgee saw it and the question will be whether it is deemed that the removal of the club from the sand is constituted as testing the lie.

It would be a pretty harsh crowd to take away the Champs title based on that, especially considering common rules breaches that no doubt would have occured naturally over the weekend...such as dc's 'strictly illegal' drop from the temporary hazard of sand, ice and can. We gonna ping him for that?

Don't worry about it.

In the spirit of the game, it would be likely that your INTENT was not to test the lie, but to merely retreive your club!!!

[td42t]

Is that what happened, I thought you fell into the bunker.

[virge666]

Isn't the problem the grounding of the wedge into the hazard ?

[AndyP]

We're not playing for sheepstations.

It's not like you intentionally cheated like iPhone DMD users.

[Hux]

Nudgee you really need to get better club throwing technique.....firstly you lose a tour issue hybrid, then a tour issue TVD wedge and now the Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


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Seriously - if Dicky didn't have a problem then and doesn't now **** IT. Its not an intentional testing of the sand but a need to get some shit off your liver (and golf towels) by throwing the club.

[matty]

The results are null and void and we'll have to do it all again next weekend.

[Ned]

Is that what happened, I thought you fell into the bunker.

Loves his kitty litter................

[Webster]

DQ. 69er wins.

[shavey]

DQ. 69er wins.

Could be on to something there Jack as Dicky would have signed an incorrect scorecard