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    Default Upcoming Downtime - Server Change

    Sometime in the next few days, I expect the forum to go down while it changes servers. I have no idea on the amount of downtime at this stage, but it could be up to 36 hours.

    I will try to get an approximation of time, when I have a better idea. When it does go down, I'll provide any useful updates via Facebook.

    If you are in the middle of something or waiting for a thread update or PM when it does go down, sucked in.

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    Server change?? Didn't you do that recently??

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    The hosts did one themselves, because their server stuffed up. This change is initiated by us.

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    Why will it be down though? There is a simple way to ensure it doesn't go down, you know.



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    Whatever will the WAnkers do ?
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    Without rules there is anarchy.

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    AndyP, I can assume you're referring to DNS propagation issues, but here's what I do.

    Create a mirror of the site on the new server.
    Prepare for the DNS change on that server.
    Create a redirect script to go from ozgolf.net to new.ozgolf.net (but call it index.txt or something)
    Freeze the old site, and upload the most up-to-date database to the new server. (This should be the only downtime, and it's just to ensure no stray posts are left on the old site)
    Change the redirect script to index.html and now everyone will be automatically posting on new.ozgolf.net
    Make the DNS changes at the domain registrar so that ozgolf.net now points to the new server.

    That's pretty much it. While DNS is propagating and people are still directed to the old server, they will automatically redirected to new.ozgolf.net. Once DNS is propagated, ozgolf.net will go to the new server automatically (providing the initial setup is done right).

    All you need to do is maybe clean up the new.ozgolf.net references in a week or two, just to maintain a tidy house.



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    Quote Originally Posted by henno View Post
    AndyP, I can assume you're referring to DNS propagation issues, but here's what I do.

    Create a mirror of the site on the new server.
    Prepare for the DNS change on that server.
    Create a redirect script to go from ozgolf.net to new.ozgolf.net (but call it index.txt or something)
    Freeze the old site, and upload the most up-to-date database to the new server. (This should be the only downtime, and it's just to ensure no stray posts are left on the old site)
    Change the redirect script to index.html and now everyone will be automatically posting on new.ozgolf.net
    Make the DNS changes at the domain registrar so that ozgolf.net now points to the new server.

    That's pretty much it. While DNS is propagating and people are still directed to the old server, they will automatically redirected to new.ozgolf.net. Once DNS is propagated, ozgolf.net will go to the new server automatically (providing the initial setup is done right).

    All you need to do is maybe clean up the new.ozgolf.net references in a week or two, just to maintain a tidy house.
    Why the hell can't you get a job ??
    Originally Posted by sms316
    Without rules there is anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarro View Post
    Why the hell can't you get a job ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyP View Post
    If you are in the middle of something or waiting for a thread update or PM when it does go down, sucked in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henno View Post
    AndyP, I can assume you're referring to DNS propagation issues, but here's what I do.

    Create a mirror of the site on the new server.
    Prepare for the DNS change on that server.
    Create a redirect script to go from ozgolf.net to new.ozgolf.net (but call it index.txt or something)
    Freeze the old site, and upload the most up-to-date database to the new server. (This should be the only downtime, and it's just to ensure no stray posts are left on the old site)
    Change the redirect script to index.html and now everyone will be automatically posting on new.ozgolf.net
    Make the DNS changes at the domain registrar so that ozgolf.net now points to the new server.

    That's pretty much it. While DNS is propagating and people are still directed to the old server, they will automatically redirected to new.ozgolf.net. Once DNS is propagated, ozgolf.net will go to the new server automatically (providing the initial setup is done right).

    All you need to do is maybe clean up the new.ozgolf.net references in a week or two, just to maintain a tidy house.
    +1

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    .+2
    except i would not go to those lengths. just freeze the old site.

    do a database backup.

    place a notice on old forum

    copy to new server.

    change Dns.

    that 36 hour window is ancient but still spread by server admins to cover their incompetence if something goes wrong. for years now i have not seen Dns to take any more than a few hours to propogate to the core nameservers and often a few seconds.

    AP are you migrating from a Cpanel host to Cpanel ?

    if yes they can do a seemless transfer that probably takes 5 mins tops and you do nothing.

    if not that is a pretty good reason to use cpanel hosting.

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    My way is far more elegant, and seemless to the user if done right. (unless they look up and see the new subdomain in that short amount of time while the DNS is propagating).



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    Quote Originally Posted by markTHEblake View Post
    AP are you migrating from a Cpanel host to Cpanel ?

    if yes they can do a seemless transfer that probably takes 5 mins tops and you do nothing.
    Yes. At this stage I'm doing nothing, as the transfer request is in with the hosts.

    Robyn would have to change the DNS though.

    I stated 36 hours in case of my incompetence and something goes wrong.

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    And while I agree on the average time for DNS propagation, the reason that is spread by server admins is not for the reason you stated. It's because they have no control over each individual ISPs DNS setup and how often they update their records, not matter what TTL they use at the nameserver.
    Last edited by henno; 11th May 2011 at 12:14 PM. Reason: typo



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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyP View Post
    Yes. At this stage I'm doing nothing, as the transfer request is in with the hosts.
    Awesome, except that now when it all happens seamlessly inside of 30 mins, everyone now knows you are not awesome.

    I stated 36 hours in case of my incompetence and something goes wrong.
    i wasnt referring to you !

    Quote Originally Posted by henno View Post
    My way is far more elegant, and seemless to the user if done right.
    I agree, but I dont think is worth the effort. Its Ozgolf not Ebay

    the reason that is spread by server admins is not for the reason you stated.
    I know what you are saying about the ISPs, but I have worked with too many self preservation conscious system administrators to change my mind. They lie through their teeth about what the do when covering their tracks.

    The no. of times they say "must have been a transient issue, as its no longer occuring" or worse "cannot repeat the issue" when it is a fact that they actually made a change to resolve it is beyond belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markTHEblake View Post
    Awesome, except that now when it all happens seamlessly inside of 30 mins, everyone now knows you are not awesome.
    I know that I'm awesome regardless.

    i wasnt referring to you !
    I was. I'm shit scared I've done something wrong.

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    You have my number, AP. Call me if the shit hits the fan.



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    Quote Originally Posted by henno View Post
    You have my number, AP. Call me if the shit hits the fan.
    So you can ridicule and laugh at him? Sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henno View Post
    You have my number, AP. Call me if the shit hits the fan.
    Thanks henno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henno View Post
    You have my number, AP. Call me if the shit hits the fan.
    Would you like a job as Ozgolf Admin. Pay is what you're currently on and no other perks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain View Post
    Would you like a job as ASSISTANT Ozgolf Admin. Pay is what you're currently on and no other perks.
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    Thank Christ there is porn out there or there would be no reason to use the internet.
    Forum needs more banter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henno View Post
    AndyP, I can assume you're referring to DNS propagation issues, but here's what I do.

    Create a mirror of the site on the new server.
    Prepare for the DNS change on that server.
    Create a redirect script to go from ozgolf.net to new.ozgolf.net (but call it index.txt or something)
    Freeze the old site, and upload the most up-to-date database to the new server. (This should be the only downtime, and it's just to ensure no stray posts are left on the old site)
    Change the redirect script to index.html and now everyone will be automatically posting on new.ozgolf.net
    Make the DNS changes at the domain registrar so that ozgolf.net now points to the new server.

    That's pretty much it. While DNS is propagating and people are still directed to the old server, they will automatically redirected to new.ozgolf.net. Once DNS is propagated, ozgolf.net will go to the new server automatically (providing the initial setup is done right).

    All you need to do is maybe clean up the new.ozgolf.net references in a week or two, just to maintain a tidy house.
    This would've been my suggestion also.

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    Thinking along the same lines myself mike!

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    I should let you do it, Goughy. And how's that announcement going?


    This forum down yet?


 

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