Possible fakes on ebay...

[Taylor360]

Just a heads up, these clubs just don't seem right with the headshapes and some of the markings...

Not sure though, let me know what you think...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....tem=3681205165

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....tem=3681205393

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....tem=3680683027

[nick]

I think their all fakes, especially the R580 but the GBB looks like it might be a Japanese model. I do think the J and the R580 are fakes.

Nick

[990B Luva]

they are all fake, especially the GBB2 and J

[Jarro]

they look alright to me.

What makes you guys think they're fakes

[nick]

The look of them, they do not look completely right and the quality of the buyers post isn't reassuring.

Nick

[ben]

I cant find a fault with them. The bore through plug on the J is legit, something a fake would never have, the shaft on the taylor is legit and the head also looks legit. The finsih on them look too good to be fakes, the paint looks like its finished correctly. The lofts are correct, typically in fakes the lofts are all wrong.

I cant see why anyone would think these are fakes.

[terryand]

Ben, Ebay expert I guess

Terry.

[ben]

Terry,

Nah I've just had pretty much every fake you could imagine sent to me from foundries. Its disgusting that some foundries stoop to it. you really get to see a lot of crap

[terryand]

Not sayin your the ebay expert,just the guys pickin em

Terry.

[Taylor360]

I didn't say for sure these are fake, but the head shapes definately look odd and some of the markings...

[990B Luva]

the colour on the head of the GBB2 isnt right, Callaway never made that shaft either, the face on the J isnt right but the 580 seems fine

[ben]

Sorry tez I miss read your post I pretty much stay away from ebay these days myself.

[ben]

990,

The JV60 shaft came out as a standard shaft in japan in the Callaway GBB II+ driver.

I think the problem you could be seeing with the face of the 975j is the lighting of the shot. The score lines are correct, which again on fakes usually isnt the case.

[ben]

btw.. i am all for stoping fakes on ebay, i hope no one gets me wrong. but a sellers reputation can be killed by a forum because they were branded as fakes where they are legit clubs.. all I am saying is be careful and do the research before saying they are fakes (Taylor I know you didn't say, you just asked the question which I don't see a problem with).

[mike]

I don't know about the GBB and the TM , but I just compared the J to my own and I can't see anything wrong with it .

I didn't say for sure these are fake, but the head shapes definately look odd and some of the markings...

I think the photos are just distorted . The shot of the GBB face is a shocker. I think that if anyone were to go to the trouble of making fakes they would at least get the shape right.

[kwantfm]

Interesting post...

The Callaway definitely looks like a fake to me. I've seen lots of GBB2s go through the local clubmaker (always need a reshaft) and the problems are:
1. Sole plate - the "d" on "driver" is too small... the "d" on these clubs is the same size as the rest of the letters;
2. Face shot - I agree that this does not look at all like a Callaway face should look... a real Callaway is lower in the heel and higher in the toe and you can see more "non-face" material around the edges (i.e. the curved parts of the clubhead that aren't shiny finished)... also the groove markings are wrong... Callaways have two almost vertical LINES to delineate the width of the target area on the face... this club uses DOTS; and
3. Top view - this may be distorted but this club is much longer heel to toe and much shallower depth wise than a real Callaway.

Haven't looked at the others in as much detail but the Titleist appears to have a sight marking that is too large to me (had a look at many JVS from the address position).