Tiger - gaaaaaawwwwnnnnnn !

[Veefore]

I always thought that Tiger's greatest asset was his incredible, Nicklaus-like discipline. With the passing of his dad it seemed like that slowly dissipated and he is as much a victim of his emotions and bad decisions as the rest of us now.

[Johnny Canuck]

His dad set the unfaithfulness example for him.

[Daves]

His dad set the unfaithfulness example for him.

Yes, but it was very disciplined unfaithfulness.

[rubin]

Yes, but it was very disciplined unfaithfulness.

It is absolutely. He's strictly kept himself to Pornstars, cocktail waitresses and models. I admire his discipline.

[dave1]

A single minded sole focus approach isnt healthy

Ben cousins said this almost addiction to a single cause makes you vulnerable.

It does prove once for all though Golf is allot about confidence. His confidence or swagger is gone. Can he regain it..? Yes if he wins..

But you need it to win.Catch 22 situation.

I think he needs to play 6 or 7 weeks in row.Find some touch.Practicing cant replace tournament pressure

[Jarro]

Tigers head is just not in t he right place atm.

I'm watching him hack around the 12th hole, hitting shots way left .. punching out of the hazard, then hitting his third shot way left again.

He's just not taking his usual time and thinking things through .... he just seems to be rushing to hurry up and hit a shot

[rodders]

Saw that as well Jarro.

I always thought Tiger will get back to how it was but the body language seems very negative.

As I type this he just hit another ball into the water, this time off the tee on par 3!

[Lagerlover]

yes, but it was very disciplined unfaithfulness.

s & m ??

[Webster]

It's all that Swedish moll's fault.

[just]

It's all that Swedish moll's fault.

+1

[dave1]

what has staggeed me is the constant changes

changing putters, changing coaches...swing changes..he then let williams go and I think williams has been the one constant steady influence in his life through all of this and he let him go.

There is no way he would have shot 10 over with williams on the bag...he might not have made the cut but 10 over!! He neeeds to find a caddie who is a strong personality like williams was.

The two rocks in his life where his Dad and Williams and they are gone

someone alos need to tell him Jordan and Barkley are terrible roll models. Im staggered the they invited Jordan onto the ryder cup team as an assiatnt. What for to show aeveryone how to gamble and pick up girls. Jordan might have been GOAT (greatest of all time) but away from the court hes not the guy hes made out to be.

I'm guessing a bit, but think it was more like Woods said he comes or I dont play.

[markTHEblake]

You got it wrong, Woods is the bad influence, Jordan and Barkley need to stay away from him.

[Johnny Canuck]

exactly. Woods is a grown man with a huge ego. I don't think he is using anyone as a role model.

[dave1]

You got it wrong, Woods is the bad influence, Jordan and Barkley need to stay away from him.

I see what you mean now.

I follow the NBA closely have for years, read some books on Jordan, hes not sqeaky clean (admitted to cheatong on his wife) and it seems Woods fall from grace started to occur when he hooked up ...with Barkley and Jordan

[dan]

It's all that Swedish moll's fault.

which one...

he's had a few.

[dave1]

exactly. Woods is a grown man with a huge ego. I don't think he is using anyone as a role model.

role models in the sense he would just go along with what others do. hes still a young man and allot of this occured when he was in his 20's

everyone is influenced by others around them. They are not to blame for sure - he is to blame 100% but they had influence.

[razaar]

Poor Tiger, he did it all to himself too. Surely he must have realised that sooner or later he would have to pay the piper. What has happened is a tragedy for golf. The pressure he is under now must be far greater than it was when he was top of the heap. I may be wrong in saying this but I can't see that much of a change in his technique before Foley. The difference I see (somebody mentioned it earlier in the thread) is he moves much quicker and without the confident swagger. His eyes seem to be turned inwards and lacking focus. Still he did shoot 73 today which was an improvement on the 77.

[BayBum]

I see what you mean now.

I follow the NBA closely have for years, read some books on Jordan, hes not sqeaky clean (admitted to cheatong on his wife) and it seems Woods fall from grace started to occur when he hooked up ...with Barkley and Jordan

Im not sure if things started going pear shaped for him when he started to hang out with "the brothers" but i totally agree with you about Jordan's antics.He is a self admitted cheat in everything he does,anything to win was his motto,so he said.He even cheats in card games with his mum !!!.Not exactly a life coach by any means

[dave1]

Poor Tiger, he did it all to himself too. Surely he must have realised that sooner or later he would have to pay the piper. What has happened is a tragedy for golf. The pressure he is under now must be far greater than it was when he was top of the heap. I may be wrong in saying this but I can't see that much of a change in his technique before Foley. The difference I see (somebody mentioned it earlier in the thread) is he moves much quicker and without the confident swagger. His eyes seem to be turned inwards and lacking focus. Still he did shoot 73 today which was an improvement on the 77.

its tough when you know everyone is looking at judging you on everything (golf and non golf)

as opposed to before when they watched in awe of him.

He was 3 under in round one and crusing. he dropped 10 shots in like 12-13 holes.

he does seem very rushed agree, especially short game, I havent looked at the stats but if we did I think his up n down and sand saves % would be the problem. Hes never been a great driver of the ball in terms of accuracy but he got away with it because his shor game was so good

[TheTrueReview]

... Hes never been a great driver of the ball in terms of accuracy but he got away with it because his shor game was so good

Short game won't help much when you're deep in the trees. He seems to be there a lot more often than he used to be.

[dave1]

yeah it was first or second cut before and he could muscle an iron from there but now its jungle love

[virge666]

There is no way he would have shot 10 over with williams on the bag...he might not have made the cut but 10 over!! He neeeds to find a caddie who is a strong personality like williams was.

I dead set could not agree more.

There is absolutley no way that TW would have had those two rounds with him on the bag. The swing looks good - the putter looks good... the driver is it's usual shitty self.

He just looks beaten up.

[Iain]

He's only played 5 or 6 competitive rounds since Augusta. It's gonna take time.

[Ned]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm............................... so he is one of 15 Major winning players who didn't make the cut, yep 6 competitive rounds after a 12 week lay off with injury, anyway time will tell.

What was the other 14 major winners reasons for missing the cut ?

[virge666]

He's only played 5 or 6 competitive rounds since Augusta. It's gonna take time.

He is broken mate - In the old days, even on 3 cylinders, he could beat everyone in the field by a couple.

Technically - he looks fine. But as soon as he is under a touch of pressure . . . he just folds.

IMHO, he just has the wrong people around him. The way he conducts himself, the way he speaks, it looks like he just doesn't have the energy in him. He looks like everyone is just annoying him. The same sort of look you get after pulling a 36 hour shift and being told to clean up the kitchen...

He just looks fragile