Tiger - gaaaaaawwwwnnnnnn !

[Jarro]

Ray, will his new swing have less pressure on his left knee ?

If it doesn't, i can see him getting injured a lot more as he gets older.

4 operations by the age of 36 seems a helluva lot

[razaar]

Jarro
The changes he has made have him more over the ball which doesn't require any linear weight shift to the right side as was the case previously. This means that his upper body will move to the left at the start of the down-swing and before his shoulders start to open. Much the same as Hogan's did but with a much more upright swing plane. The upright swing reduces the amount of hip turn because the arms don't swing around the body. The danger is staying connected with an upright plane which means the ball has to be played closer to the body. This is the reason for a high hip position with the butt sticking out -- to make room for the left leg to clear to make room for the hands. The closer the hands get to the knees the more leverage there seems to be in the swing. Similar to picking up a heavy weight.
There will be some shear force on the left knee because it is straightening and twisting, but he won't be thrusting back into the heel like he did with his previous swing method. This new swing has lots more resistance building up in the back-swing which means he doesn't have to work as hard in the forward-swing to achieve the same power. He may even get more power.

[Jarro]

Thanks Ray.

I was asking because i remember when he first went to the S&T swing, he still tried to really bust one out there by going to the old move (snapping the left knee down hard)

Maybe he's learned a valuable lesson from this swing change ?

[TheTrueReview]

Just from the Twittersphere. Tiger in two places at once. In Nike tour van whilst giving an interview.

Will the real Tiger please stand up, please stand up?

[razaar]

Thanks Ray.

I was asking because i remember when he first went to the S&T swing, he still tried to really bust one out there by going to the old move (snapping the left knee down hard)

Maybe he's learned a valuable lesson from this swing change ?

I am looking forward to seeing his swing in action. From what I've seen & read so far it will be something similar to MC Ilroy's and Kaymer's action. The clubface looks at the swing plane which is relly very square (not shut). The legs maintain their flex through the impact zone rather than straighten. The latter is a throw back from the hickory era to allow the hands to slow up so the clubhead could catch up. The modern swing doesn't need that move because the head stays with the shaft with today's equipment. If you look at all the great players (with the exception of Trevino and Tiger) they all have knee flex through the ball. Flexed knees don't stall the hands through impact which must add to clubhead speed and has the added benefit of keeping the clubhead level for much longer through impact and beyond.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYwqSWrQt-k

[Jarro]

I am looking forward to seeing his swing in action. From what I've seen & read so far it will be something similar to MC Ilroy's and Kaymer's action. The clubface looks at the swing plane which is relly very square (not shut). The legs maintain their flex through the impact zone rather than straighten. The latter is a throw back from the hickory era to allow the hands to slow up so the clubhead could catch up. The modern swing doesn't need that move because the head stays with the shaft with today's equipment. If you look at all the great players (with the exception of Trevino and Tiger) they all have knee flex through the ball. Flexed knees don't stall the hands through impact which must add to clubhead speed and has the added benefit of keeping the clubhead level for much longer through impact and beyond.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYwqSWrQt-k

nice song

Wish he didn't put any music on that and left the commentary on

[virge666]

Great Analysis Ray.

I enjoyed reading that.

[TourFit]

Nice Ray...and Trevino and Tiger both had frequent injury concerns with regards to their swings!

[petethepilot]

Trevino's was Back issues!

Tiger's is his knees

[Ned]

Trevino's was Back issues!

Tiger's is his knees

Bit of Tiger in you PtP ?

[virge666]

Is Tiger playing at the AT&T this weekend ?

[TheTrueReview]

Is Tiger playing at the AT&T this weekend ?

His interview two days ago here in which he said (amongst other things ):

"Probably in retrospect it was a borderline call whether I should have played THE PLAYERS. I played the call on that and played and wasn't quite 100 percent. Unfortunately I hurt myself there. Now this time around, it's different. I'm going at it differently. I'm setting no timetable, which is very different for me. Usually I set a timetable when I want to come back and play when I've had injuries before.

This one is different. I'm just going to learn my lesson from what I did at THE PLAYERS and apply it this time and come back when I'm 100 percent."

[BrisVegas]

Tiger Who?

[Iain]

Nope, just hosting the AT&T.

[virge666]

Tiger Who?

yeah - the guy just doesn't play anymore... the last 3 years has been tiger free except for the odd showing.

[Goldy]

That's what SHE said.

[razaar]

From a USA perspective, without Tiger there isn't anybody to carry the flag. Possibly their college golf system is inferior to what other countries are doing to advance their elite amatuers. Or maybe golf is too expensive in America these days, which limits it's availabilty to a small population.

[IanO]

Where was that Cantell (A) guy from? I thought he was US and he did pretty well

[BayBum]

yeah he's a yank Ian.He also went alright at the AT&T last week,top 20 or there abouts.

[BayBum]

Just heard on the radio,Williams still with Scott for the open championship.FFS Tiger,sort it out....punk bitch.

[BayBum]

dble post.

[TheTrueReview]

Just heard on the radio,Williams still with Scott for the open championship.FFS Tiger,sort it out....punk bitch.

I think the "Punk Bitch" is trying to sort it out.

"Unfortunately, I've been advised that I should not play in the British Open," Woods said. "As I stated at the AT&T National, I am only going to come back when I'm 100 percent ready. I do not want to risk further injury. That's different for me, but I'm being smarter this time. I'm very disappointed and want to express my regrets to the British Open fans."

"In hindsight, I probably shouldn't have competed at THE PLAYERS, but it's a big event, and I wanted to be there to support the tour," Woods said. "I've got to learn from what I did there and do it right this time and not come back until I'm ready.

"I think my best years are still ahead of me, and I'm very confident and optimistic about the future."

More here.

[Iain]

I'd be surprised if we see him again this year. I think he'll come back with his body and swing right for 2012.

[markTHEblake]

but how long will it take for him to get his head right?

[Chris32]

Shouldn't that read "How much head will it take for him to get his body right" MTB