Tiger - gaaaaaawwwwnnnnnn !

[virge666]

To rehash an old thread - he is rubbish. Which is still pretty awesome by my standards.

The swing looks sort of OK... but no where near as good as Adam Scott who is what he use to look like. His short game is that of a good amateur and his putting inside 10 feet is now mortal.

My prediction is maybe a win this year, wouldn't be surprised if there are none. And at least 2 missed cuts.

The guy is a has been !

[3oneday]

It's a shame really, but I think I said in this same thread last year that he won't win another major. When he shot those 2 rounds in the 60's I began hoping I was wrong.

He adds so much to the PGA Tour, it will struggle to attract the big name sponsors if his game dies a painful death. He did say however that his swing changes were taking time, so fingers crossed that's all it is.

[Webster]

Heres why Virge (can someone embed this pls):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OD52PB2d6g

[Yossarian]

[Captain Nemo]

Ive had a quite large bet that Tiger wont win a major this year, so i love to see hime chop it each week!

[MegaWatty]

His vintage 3 wood into 18 to make eagle, after struggling all day, obviously wasn't a good sign then.

[Moe Norman]

that was a sweet shot after a day of struggles. He even managed to initimidate Westwood into a soft 6 in the process

[3oneday]

Interesting video, thanks Jack.

[sol381]

that shakira bit was pretty funny. whod have thought the golf swing was so complicated. beats me why he tried to change his swing in the first place. looks like me might be thinking way too much. graeme mcdowalls swing is a simple as it gets.. i reckon he will win another major this year

[virge666]

Heres why Virge (can someone embed this pls):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OD52PB2d6g

What a crock of shit. Hands on the clubshaft plane!! - FFS, Are we all going to play Moe Norman style ? (I guess you put it up as a joke Jack.)

You cant stick numbers and lines on a golf swing and then make up reasons why it is bad. It is what f*ckwits do to try and sell dodgey internet "fix your swing by 10 strokes today" scams.

Tiger has 3 main strengths - he has always had them.

1. His short game was the best in the world. he would get up and down out of a phone booth.
2. His putting inside 10ft was super human
3. His distance control with his wedges was inside 10-15ft all day long.

Now...

He is hitting all his chip shots fat, he is missing inside just 6ft often enough and his distance control with longer putts is not there. From inside 100m he is lucky to have 25ft putts.

He has always been ordinary with the driver... but even on his bad days - his game inside 100m and putting would save him. He also cannot control the ball in the air - especially the hold off cut shot. he is really struggling to get the ball to fade.

Forget the technical aspects - he has a steeper S&T Rotary kind of swing now - things are always going to be different. The problem is that he has no longer got the short game to save himself or keep the momentum going through the bad holes.

G A W N !

[IanO]

Those quickfix videos on how to fix your swing are always a crock on youtube.

Virge .. great to see you calling 'em as you see 'em

[MegaWatty]

I always thought his head was the best part of his game. Never the best swinger of the club and rarely hit lots of fairways, but always backed himself. That shot on 18 showed that when his head is right he still has great ability.

I think the question is whether he can keep his head in that zone for 72 holes.

[idgolfguy]

You have to travel the Wilderness before you can master your domain. Still think he will win one this year. He is currently cleansing his soul.

[BayBum]

It took him 20 years of golf to lock in his swing,changing now aint gonna happen over night & he is the first to admit that.IMO,he says to the media its a work in progress but when he gets out on the course he is expecting instant results,thats typical arrogant Tiger for ya.Maybe he's been laxing on te short game prac with all this new swing crap goin on ?

I hope he gets back to a good place & stomps on jacks record.Winning one this year (i think he will) would be a nice start me thinks...

[markTHEblake]

What a crock of shit. Hands on the clubshaft plane!!

i was surprised the guy started talking about centrifugal force. Hasnt the importance/relevance of that been revealed to be a myth and thrown out long ago?

[kpac]

but no where near as good as Adam Scott who is what he use to look like. His short game is that of a good amateur and his putting inside 10 feet is now mortal.

So will Adam win one or more this year??

[Yossarian]

Adam also can't putt, so none.

[TourFit]

Adam also can't putt, so none.

Even Yoss has started to putt better than Adam (Scott, that is)

[Yossarian]

Thanks, I think.

[simmsy]

i'd back Yoss from 10' before adam scott these days....


never thought i would say that!

[virge666]

So will Adam win one or more this year??

He probably will - for the 2 weeks he putts properly. Maybe in Asia or a mini Euro tour.

i was surprised the guy started talking about centrifugal force. Hasnt the importance/relevance of that been revealed to be a myth and thrown out long ago?

Yeah mate - the narrator is a muppet from somewhere in the 60's. Probably from the "Late hit" era.

Low hands = Yips
bump vs rotation
217% better vs 307% worse.

Total crock of the proverbial.

[markTHEblake]

i was interested in what he had to say about the microscopic muscle bits, i had not heard of such a thing before, and wondering how that might apply to me generally.

[bergsey]

Tiger also used to have a significant distance advantage on the field, particularly when courses were lengthened or 'Tiger Proofed' which actually gave him more of an advantage.

I haven't looked at the stats but i gather with the young guys bombing it that he has lost any advantage that he had in this area.

[Jarro]

He's always been a long hitter and is still up there with the rest of the young 'uns.

As Virge said though, he's lost the aura of invincibility when it comes to the short game and putting.

Shame to see really

[rubin]

that shakira bit was pretty funny. whod have thought the golf swing was so complicated. beats me why he tried to change his swing in the first place. looks like me might be thinking way too much. graeme mcdowalls swing is a simple as it gets.. i reckon he will win another major this year

From what I believe, and looking at the changes he has made, it was a result of the leg/knee injuries he has had. He cant generate the same 'explosiveness' as he called, as what he used to. I'd also heard that it was because of this he started to develop a bad wrist-flick action.