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1st December 2010 08:37 PM
#1
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
Sandbagging
Since the handicap changeover I have gone from +1 to 4. Part of that is due to playing crap. Part due to playing in crappy weather. Anyway...
This playing off 4 bit is not that bad. I don't have to practice. I can play to near enough without any real stress.
My question is this: if I can't win an event what is the point of trying? It is easier to try for 14 holes or so and then re-evaluate. If I am going ok then go for it. If I am a few off then I might as well switch off and take some risks, which for those of you who know PW know that risks will work about 10% of the time.
I might as well play off about 6 and just stuff around and then pull my finger out when it is worth it.
Thoughts?
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1st December 2010 08:41 PM
#2
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
That's the spirit, it's what I do. I'm just waiting for the opportunity to shoot a sub par round off 36 hcp at an Ozgolf event.
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1st December 2010 08:41 PM
#3
Senior Member
Order of Merit winner
Have another drink and think about it a little more!
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1st December 2010 08:41 PM
#4
Senior Member
Order of Merit winner
Originally Posted by
Ferrins
That's the spirit, it's what I do. I'm just waiting for the opportunity to shoot a sub par round off 36 hcp at an Ozgolf event.
Legendary stuff right there Ferrins!
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1st December 2010 08:49 PM
#5
Moderator
Touring Pro (PGA)
If you really enjoy taking the risks, why wait for a bad score to set you free?
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1st December 2010 09:53 PM
#6
Senior Member
Touring Pro (European Tour)
SMS you have tickets on yourself...sorry on your windscreen wiper.
You could chalk a bad round up to experience...or just chalk up on someones tyres.
AS I always say if you can't handle the heat don't park in a no standing zone
ROFLMAO
Cheers
Craig
WITB
G30 LS 10.5* Attas5; Cobra Bio Cell+ 3 wood; Adams Proto DHY Super 18*/21*Kurokage; Cally Apex Pro 4-PW Steelfibre 110cw; Sky Dream Jump 51*; TVD 60* and Odyssey Black Series #1
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1st December 2010 09:59 PM
#7
Senior Member
Order of Merit winner
Originally Posted by
Hux
SMS you have tickets on yourself...sorry on your windscreen wiper.
You could chalk a bad round up to experience...or just chalk up on someones tyres.
AS I always say if you can't handle the heat don't park in a no standing zone
ROFLMAO
LOL
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1st December 2010 10:14 PM
#8
Member
Touring Pro (Aust PGA)
Might as well go the whole hog and get yourself a Polish passport Sean, or should that be Seanski
Last edited by Hawkers2008; 1st December 2010 at 10:16 PM.
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1st December 2010 10:46 PM
#9
Senior Member
Major Winner
SMS, two more years and you can get a start in the Spanish Paralympic team.
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1st December 2010 11:44 PM
#10
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
sms316
Since the handicap changeover I have gone from +1 to 4. Part of that is due to playing crap. Part due to playing in crappy weather. Anyway...
That sucks, I thought i was going bad and I have lost a shot to you, i have gone from 3.6 to 7.8 in 18 rounds (last round not recorded online yet).
at least i have plateaued - i couldn't possibly get worse than this.
The thing that bothers me the most, there is no single part of my game that I can blame for the bad round. Its always a wide range of bad strokes, nothing is consistent.
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Criticism doesn't bother me, as it means I am doing something and people are watching.
Handy-Cap
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2nd December 2010 10:03 AM
#11
Senior Member
Multiple Major Winner
it's not sandbagging if you're just crap. Reset your expectations and move on.
golflink WITB
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2nd December 2010 10:11 AM
#12
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
I think the new system blows out your handicap if you switch off with a few holes to go and lose interest. Whereas before it was only going to hurt you 0.1 or 0.2. Over a 20 round period it is probably worth 2 shots.
Are you morally obliged to try as much on the 18th as you do on the 1st?
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2nd December 2010 10:13 AM
#13
Site Owner
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Only if that round is going to be a counter will it matter. I lost interest yesterday once I knew it wouldn't count. It was hard to stay motivated.
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2nd December 2010 10:14 AM
#14
NAGA Emeritus
Touring Pro (Nationwide Tour)
That's what I do. I play off 20 but really am a single digit guy. I am just waiting for the nright day to come out of my shell.
I should be off about 7 with the gear I got, at least I look good.
Hey, let's pop some Viagras and issue tickets with raging, mega-huge boners.
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2nd December 2010 10:20 AM
#15
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
Originally Posted by
solarman
really am a single digit guy.
I reckon you have more than one digit and you play with them regularly.
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2nd December 2010 11:00 AM
#16
sms,
The system obviously works
You were never a +1 player.
6 is more likely somewhere near where you need to be, as you could play to that at least once a year
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2nd December 2010 11:18 AM
#17
Senior Member
Major Winner
I've come down 3 shots with the new system, so it's not the system.
The main reason is that we play for 2-3 bottles of wine across a couple of groups. (Not knowing/trusting what is happening in the other groups means we keep going in hope that a 33 points can secure the last bottle.)
Under the old CCR system, 33-36 points often got .1 back.
Now 33-36 often displaces the tenth ranked score and the handicap comes down.
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2nd December 2010 11:56 AM
#18
Senior Member
Order of Merit winner
SMS, you're not officially a sandbagger until you win something. For the time being just consider yourself an out of form hack.
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2nd December 2010 11:58 AM
#19
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
Good point. Wait until Rusty has to give me shots in the matchplay.
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2nd December 2010 12:17 PM
#20
Senior Member
Major Winner
I have never ever thought of the impact a round might have on my handicap, during or before a round.
I find this activity pretty bizarre.
Moe Norman
Ping G30 9* | Wilson Staff Tour F5 15* | Ping G20 20** | Ping i3 Blades 3-PW | Ping Tour 54.12 & 60.08| Yes! Marilyn
"I had played so poorly recently, I started thinking that maybe I should do something else. Then I saw my friends going to work every day and realised that my life wasn't so bad." -Steve Pate
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2nd December 2010 12:26 PM
#21
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
I always know that I will find a way to hurt the round somewhere in the round so it does not pay for me to think about sandbagging. I could stuff up the first just as easily as the last. But rest assured the is a FU somewhere in the round.
Grant
Grunt's Golflink
TM Burner - Cobra F Speed 3W - TM Draw 3H - TM Burner 4i-AW - Vokey 54/58 Wedges - Wilson 8862 Blade
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2nd December 2010 02:43 PM
#22
Senior Member
Major Winner
How is the Motivation ?
As soon as you hit a 2 or 3 handicap, the only thing missing between that and +2 or +3 is time and motivation.
Playing off 4-5 is a piece of piss. Anyone with good mechanics can do it for most of their life.
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2nd December 2010 06:16 PM
#23
Senior Member
Golf Hall of Fame Inductee
Originally Posted by
sms316
I think the new system blows out your handicap if you switch off with a few holes to go and lose interest.
How much your handicap can possibly increase by after that round is predetermined before you start that round. So blowing out a score at the end only has an impact if it was going to be in your top 10, so I am thinking that you would not lose in interest if that was the case.
Last edited by markTHEblake; 2nd December 2010 at 06:23 PM.
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Criticism doesn't bother me, as it means I am doing something and people are watching.
Handy-Cap
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2nd December 2010 08:42 PM
#24
Senior Member
Grand Slam Winner
True, but I haven't really been considering the consequences until recently.
Virge - I'm sure I will get motivated enough shortly with pennant around the corner. The opportunity to play dog tracks quality courses like Pine Rivers and Kilcoy is too good to pass up.
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3rd December 2010 10:48 AM
#25
Senior Member
Touring Pro (Nationwide Tour)
Kilcoy haven't had any pennant teams in the last couple of years and thus haven't hosted any rounds, I haven't seen next years draw, but would be suprised if they had any teams playing or were hosting. But that said, Kilcoy fun to play while drinking plenty of beer, their annual zone open day is regular piss-up trip for 8-12 of the Woodford crew.
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