One for the rules gurus.

[PeteyD]

Date is the responsibility of the comittee not the player (there is a ruling on that one. Oddly enough the names are as well). The big 4 could be a handicap.

[AndyP]

I seem to remember Gaz getting DQ'd for not putting his handicap down, but still lost the shots for a good round.

[Dotty]

Assuming those are the player and marker signatures in the 'marker' columns, and his handicap is 4, the only thing missing is the date.

Whether is a committee or player error, depends on how the committee handles Rule 33-5. (The committee must provide each player with a scorecard with date and the competitor's name ...) and the Note for 33-5. (The committee may request that each competitor records the date and their name ...)


Ooops. Too long typing long-winded response.

[AndyP]

Oh, it's a '4'. I thought it was separation lines or something.

[mike]

Haha. I think I know the story behind this. That's damn funny.

[PeteyD]

Out with it, or I'll find a Pinky answer again.

[mike]

"I think so, Brain, but what if the hippopotamus won't wear the beach thong?"

Thanks again for the link PD.

[markTHEblake]

Would this card be legal to accept in a competition ?

well legal is not the right word, but I'd go with Dotty, if that is 4 for the handicap and the two squiggles are both signatures, then the committee has to accept that scorecard, even though it seems ridiculous with so many 2's and 1's as well.

However the committee has every right to call A Golfer, a wanker.

[Daves]

Is the card from the Rules Seminar that is doing the rounds at the moment?

[Ned]

Is the card from the Rules Seminar that is doing the rounds at the moment?

No, it's a replica from a past District event.

[Daves]

No, it's a replica from a past District event.

You should send them a copy. It would be a great exhibit to stir up the old farts at the Seminars!

[Ned]

You should send them a copy. It would be a great exhibit to stir up the old farts at the Seminars!

Golf Australia ruled on this senario!

[PeteyD]

And what was their ruling?

[mike]

Mossman Open a couple of years ago. 36 hole stroke event. Major event is gross, nett is meh.

Mr A. Golfer has a blinder on Saturday but fails to put his handicap on the card. He's disqualified. He argues that he shouldn't be disqualified from the gross event as handicap doesn't come into it. He's disqualified anyway.

On Sunday he plays because he's already paid for 36 holes and writes his handicap as above and signs in small writing somewhere.

Disqualified again.

My opinion is; he shouldn't have been disqualified in either instance. But that's just my opinion. I'm entitled to an opinion.

Should he have been DQ'd?

[PeteyD]

Pretty sure failure to put HC on card can be a DQ offense. Although as you say for a gross comp it is not really relevant.

[henno]

Mossman Open a couple of years ago. 36 hole stroke event. Major event is gross, nett is meh.

Mr A. Golfer has a blinder on Saturday but fails to put his handicap on the card. He's disqualified. He argues that he shouldn't be disqualified from the gross event as handicap doesn't come into it. He's disqualified anyway.

On Sunday he plays because he's already paid for 36 holes and writes his handicap as above and signs in small writing somewhere.

Disqualified again.

My opinion is; he shouldn't have been disqualified in either instance. But that's just my opinion. I'm entitled to an opinion.

Should he have been DQ'd?

Perhaps there was a max handicap for the event? (Like 10 and under, or something.)

Not saying I agree with the decision, jut throwing it out there as a silly reason they might have DQed him.

[markTHEblake]

mike. are we talking about steeley bloke again?

the rules are specific about recording handicap on a card, but i think this question came up in general discussion at the rules seminar i went in at the start of the year. might have been along the lines that gross and event are seperate competitions.

on the other hand if it is an amateur event then it is required that you have a handicap to be able to play even if it is a scratch event.

i am pretty sure when i played in the qld am. the scorecards had our handicap on them.

unless this decision is written down somewhere it remains ambiguous as everyone has a different answer, even i cant remember the official answer from a couple months ago.

[dc68]

What is the score written down on the 12th? a reverse c? Surely you can't accept it for that alone?

[andigold]

Mossman Open a couple of years ago. 36 hole stroke event. Major event is gross, nett is meh.

Mr A. Golfer has a blinder on Saturday but fails to put his handicap on the card. He's disqualified. He argues that he shouldn't be disqualified from the gross event as handicap doesn't come into it. He's disqualified anyway.

On Sunday he plays because he's already paid for 36 holes and writes his handicap as above and signs in small writing somewhere.

Disqualified again.

My opinion is; he shouldn't have been disqualified in either instance. But that's just my opinion. I'm entitled to an opinion.

Should he have been DQ'd?

I think you're right Mike and there is even a decision to support that view.

33-1/13 Competitor Disqualified from Handicap Event Claims Gross Prize
Q. In a stroke-play event, a competitor played off a higher handicap than that to which he was entitled. Although the event was primarily a handicap one, there was also a gross prize, and the competitor concerned had the lowest gross score.
The competitor was disqualified from the handicap competition under Rule 6-2b, but he claimed the gross prize. Should he receive the gross prize?
A. Yes.

[Ned]

Mossman Open a couple of years ago. 36 hole stroke event. Major event is gross, nett is meh.

Mr A. Golfer has a blinder on Saturday but fails to put his handicap on the card. He's disqualified. He argues that he shouldn't be disqualified from the gross event as handicap doesn't come into it. He's disqualified anyway.

On Sunday he plays because he's already paid for 36 holes and writes his handicap as above and signs in small writing somewhere.

Disqualified again.

My opinion is; he shouldn't have been disqualified in either instance. But that's just my opinion. I'm entitled to an opinion.

Should he have been DQ'd?

Were you running this event mike ?

[TheNuclearOne]

Quick one


If a guy holds the stick straight as it's leaning prior and a player holes out from off the green with the stick still being held it's a penalty right?

[henno]

You have to be "fairly taking your stance" don't you. So I say, penalty.

Disclaimer: I know nothing.

[AndyP]

Another player is holding the flag, henno.

[henno]

Another player is holding the flag, henno.

Whoops. I read it as "holding a stick" thinking he was holding a branch with one hand while he swung with the other.

[mike]

Perhaps there was a max handicap for the event? (Like 10 and under, or something.)

No it was just a graded event. A grade up to 10. B grade 11 to 17. C grade 18 and up.

mike. are we talking about steeley bloke again?

Who?

What is the score written down on the 12th? a reverse c? Surely you can't accept it for that alone?

The scorecard is a duplicate. It's not even the Mossman card.

Were you running this event mike ?

I don't understand the relevance of this question. Of course I wasn't running the event.